Volkel Departure A/B discussion

[Leeuwarden]

[Edit: originates here]

Someone knows what's happening here?

[Andras]

That is called an afterburner, it just looks weird because of the dark backdrop, flame stages are visible..

[kiwi]

That is called an afterburner, it just looks weird because of the dark backdrop, flame stages are visible..

That's not what an afterburner looks like, whatever the backdrop (not on an F-16 at least).
It's also visible in Chris' shot with a light backdrop. It looks more like a Mig 21 kind of afterburner

[blu109]

They are equipped with the f100-pw-229 engine which is more powerfull.

[Jurrien]

Just your normal everyday Afterburner, nothing special.

[Leeuwarden]

I see those afterburners almost every day. This is not a usual afterburner look. Maybe there is nothing wrong but it certainly isn't an every day afterburner-look.

[dinovandoorn]

i have to agree with mr. leeuwarden.. it is looking weird to me as well...
My first impression was "hey it this AB looks like an F-111 burner"
I think it is the engine related as well...

[blu109]

Maybe read my post!

Its another engine.

The f-16 mlu is equipped with the PW f-100 220 which is less powerfull. The block 52 is equipped with the f100 229.

[dinovandoorn]

Maybe read my post! Its another engine.
The f-16 mlu is equipped with the PW f-100 220 which is less powerfull. The block 52 is equipped with the f100 229.

Then you have to read my message as well..because i agreed that it is engine related AS WELL.
But neverless it is still a strange burner even if it is engine related or not.. i didn't saw it before...
or maybe i have seen to less Block 52 F-16's

[Pete]

Just my two cents,

It looks like a number of nozzles of the afterburner spray ring are not working. only the lower ones.

Regards Pete

for those interested[url]http://www.f-15estrikeeagle.com/technol ... w2.htm/url]

[blu109]

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[kdej]

Dunno what F16 that is.
If I recall, that Greek F16 has bigger engines and stuff.
Maybe thats him ?
(Or just ignore if i'm completely wrong about the machine)

edit.
(Being new on the scene, I guess with block 52 you DO mean that Greek flying machine)
(So sorry, my bad.)

[Redskin]

If it is normal for the F-15D block 52 why did the polish F-16's at last TLP have a normal afterburner (like every other F-16)

The picture looks more like a malfunctioning afterburner than a normal one.

[RogierV]

It looks like a number of nozzles of the afterburner spray ring are not working. only the lower ones.

Might be a new feature to reduce fuel consumption (And might be the answer to the question too.)

Question to the witnesses: was the flame 'wobbling' (like a MiG-21 flame) or did it stay in the lower part of the exhaust?

You could send the picture to PW, with the question 'is this normal?'

EDIT: I wrote GE instead of PW. (Although GE is probably more interested in malfunctioning PW pics )

[AK01]

It looks like a number of nozzles of the afterburner spray ring are not working. only the lower ones.

Question to the witnesses: was the flame 'wobbling' (like a MiG-21 flame) or did it stay in the lower part of the exhaust?

The flame was in the lower part of the engine all the time.
Below one more picture(bad quality) from behind, perhaps some expert sees a clue, i don't .
Regards Pieter,