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you're right about the first part (but then again, that was also the case when they carried codes starting with C), but I think there is no ground (yet!) for your second observation, as the Phalsbourg-based Pumas got recoded to D-series instead of G-series...liddellesf wrote:Concerning the CODES - I've just been sorting my log out and noted there seem to be alpha/numeric code sequences with the Gazelles – the GQs are the SA.341Fs, the GAs, GBs, and GCs are the SA.342Ms, and the GEs are the SA.342Ls, and the coding is running in the same sense as the serial order.
Is the ALAT implementing a system similar to the AdlA with codes permanently assigned to airframes? (the G being Phalsbourg - is that again an alphabetical system??!)
Frank,frank kramer wrote:you're right about the first part (but then again, that was also the case when they carried codes starting with C), but I think there is no ground (yet!) for your second observation, as the Phalsbourg-based Pumas got recoded to D-series instead of G-series...liddellesf wrote:Concerning the CODES - I've just been sorting my log out and noted there seem to be alpha/numeric code sequences with the Gazelles – the GQs are the SA.341Fs, the GAs, GBs, and GCs are the SA.342Ms, and the GEs are the SA.342Ls, and the coding is running in the same sense as the serial order.
Is the ALAT implementing a system similar to the AdlA with codes permanently assigned to airframes? (the G being Phalsbourg - is that again an alphabetical system??!)
My best guess is that Gxx stands for Gazelle, Dxx stands for Puma and Cxx stands for Cougar/Super Puma. I have noted the following new codes at Pau (GQJ for a Gazelle, DDQ for a Puma and CIA for a Cougar/Super Puma) and Le Luc (GNU Gazelle, and Puma's DOW and DON, aswell as Puma's with old codes MBA, BCT, BRA, ACT and ABD) recently.AK01 wrote:Frank,frank kramer wrote:you're right about the first part (but then again, that was also the case when they carried codes starting with C), but I think there is no ground (yet!) for your second observation, as the Phalsbourg-based Pumas got recoded to D-series instead of G-series...liddellesf wrote:Concerning the CODES - I've just been sorting my log out and noted there seem to be alpha/numeric code sequences with the Gazelles – the GQs are the SA.341Fs, the GAs, GBs, and GCs are the SA.342Ms, and the GEs are the SA.342Ls, and the coding is running in the same sense as the serial order.
Is the ALAT implementing a system similar to the AdlA with codes permanently assigned to airframes? (the G being Phalsbourg - is that again an alphabetical system??!)
I don't know it for sure as well, however at Phalsbourg they have Sa330B's with codes starting with DA*/DB*/DC*/DD* .
If they recoded from DAA to DZZ it would mean 1 RHC has at least 4 x 26, so more then 100 Sa330's in it's inventory, this would be rather strange. Let's wait and see if Puma's coded in DA/DD also show up on other ALAT fields, if they start using the same code range at (for instance) Pau or Etain it might prove they recoded them all, and therefore the code's will be fixed instead of assigned to índividual squadrons.
Perhaps this discussion should be continued elsewhere as it's not realy covering Phalsbourg Airshow anymore.
I agree. Mods, do yourWijgert IJlst wrote:I agree perhaps a good optopn to continue this discussion in a seperate topic? Moderator(s), can you add/merge this subject into a new topic please?
thing !
That seems to be correct. There is a small dragon painted on the hull next to the code. See pic. Can anyone confirm this is indeed a squuadronmarking?frank kramer wrote:I asked about the Gazelle in hangar 2. They checked on the nose for me. if I understood the French reply correctly (certainement!) it was ship 4224.
For clarification purposes only: make that ETM01.040liddellesf wrote:The ETM 01.040 "Moselle" is the METZ-FRASCATY based unit with TBM.700 and AS.555. For instance, see the Metz show reports from 13 May 2007 when both types were displayed with unit badges and information boards.
"Valmy" was the title of EH 02.067 and "Verdun" of ETM 00.041, both based at Metz - these were amalgamated into ETM 01.041, presumably keeping the old squadron traditions in the new flights - Valmy will be the rotary flight and Verdun the fixed-wing.
Pardon, but it's a habit of assuming the AS.555s are from EH.03.067 - the majority seen in northern France, and north of there, are from ETM 01.041.
Neil
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