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Still one agusta is unknown as H-02 was operating from the SeaKing Area and not from the other side.Paul van der Linden wrote:Hi Crizz,Witch 2 RAF Tornado's came in on Saturday around 14:30. And someone a reg. for the France CN235 and 4 A109's near the rwy that were flying.
I saw no reply to the last question so here it is:
One of the four A109s flew a solo display in the late morning; this was H26
The three in the 'air power demo' were H02, H21 and H28.
Greetings, Paul
Did these come in on Friday? Is that CET or Zulu time? Cheers.Richard de Florennes wrote: Rafale C 113-IV ATA1754L
Rafale C 113-IX ATA1754L
really it was really simple just making the 2 spotter point just at the beginning for touch down and to the end of runway to make taxishots....... at a reasonable distance. Not asking to stay so close but neither at more then 300 meters to the runway with aircraft hided by grass and haze....snafu352 wrote:I was at the spotters day on the 2nd and throughly enjoyed myself.
Maybe i'm just too easy going but these type of events are a priviledge not a right.
Sure 30 eur is not cheap but they don't have to do this for what is a minority of the public.
In these economic times it may be quite difficult for the military to justify spending money on us...so in order to lay something on they employ a company to run it on a commercial basis. That is inevitably going to be more expensive for us.
That is a very sincere apology from the base commander himself...tonno1970 wrote:However I got an answer from Beauvechain at the website linked before. They are gonna giving back the money.
here the reply that I put as they say to advise other spotters:
Thanks for you email. I heard from a lot of you colleagues "spotters" that the civilian organization during this spotters' day was a real disaster.
As you know, the Defense is confronted nowadays with a lot of other challenges than the organization of such events; this is the reason why we tried for the 1st time to involve a civilian company to help us.
We sincerely regret what happened during this spotters' day and I think we got a lot of lessons learned.
The water distribution to all of you was a military initiative because we saw the lacks of the civilian organization. but I confess it should not have happened...
Thanks for sending us your address and your Bank account (IBAN) in order to reimburse you the fee they let you pay for this "non-event"
Could you also let this information pass through your colleagues spotters who were in the same situation.
I you have any other comments, please let me personally know.
My apologizes for this.
P. LAURENT, Ir
Colonel
Commander 1 WING
Static A.109HA nb H46 F-16A wfu FA55, FA100 F-16AM nb FA101 SA.316B 40Sm M2 SF.260D 5Sm ST40 Bo.105P nb 8611 Tornado IDS JbG33 4601 PC-9M FTS 262 F-16Am 323Sqn J193 F-16BM FLO 305 Merlin HM1 nb ZH860 Tornado GR4 nb ZA449/20 Tornado GR4 15Sqn ZA463/028 C-21A 76AS 84-0111 EC.120B F-HBKB (c/n 1573) Static - Trainer platform Alpha Jet 11Sm AT14 SF.260M+ 5Sm ST06, ST30 Alpha Jet E EAC314 E22/705-LS PC-7 131EMVOSqn L05 S.105OE FlRg3 BF-36 Hawk T1 208Sqn XX231/231 Static - Hangar behind trainer platform Glider Luchtkadetten PL76 Preserved behind hangar SF.260M Pres ST14 Static - Shelter 14 F-16AM nb FA111 Static - Museum platform CM.170R Pres MT35 RF-84F Pres FR33 SF.260D 5Sm ST48 MiG-15bis Pres 3911 G.91R Pres 3085 Hunter F58 Pres J4077 J-35A Pres 35067/34 Open cockpit zone A.109HO wfu H16 Alpha Jet 11Sm AT19 CM.170R wfu MT49 F-16A wfu FA05 SF.260M+ 5sm ST47 Base Musuem CM.170R Pres MT48 F-16A Pres FA18 RF-84F Pres FR32 F-104G Pres FX47 Hunter F4 Std ID16/JE-P, ID26/OV-K (Forward fuselages only) Meteor Pres EG79/J-SV (as EG80) Mirage 5BR Pres BR10 SA.318C Pres A46 SF.260M Pres ST11 T-33A Pres FT24 MiG-21 Pres 2429 Gate guards F-104G Pres FX04 F-16A Pres FA113 Flightline/static C-130H 20Sm CH12 SF.260M+ Hardship Red ST02/2, ST04/4, ST22, ST32/1, ST27/X T-17 FLSK T405, T409, T414, T418, T431 Rafale C EC1/7 119/113-IX P-3C MFG3 6007 An-26 MH59 110 JAS-39D MH59 43 E-3A NAEWF LX-N90446 F/A-18C nb J5023 An-26 Ukranian AF/nb 5406/25bl KC-135R 351ARS 62-3565/D Flightline other side CN.235M ET1/62 165/62-IT Emb.121AA EAT319 072/YA, 102/YS, 105/YU Emb.121AN EAT319 083/ZE CN.235M Esc Transporte CNA-MB An-26 MH59 405 JAS-39C MH59 40 S.105OE FlRg3 RF-26 F/A-18C FlSt17 J5017 Tornado GR4 15Sqn ZA458/024 Tornado GR4 nb ZD742/090, ZG792/138 SF.260 Hangar SF.260M+ 5Sm ST16, ST18, ST26, ST36 SF.260M+ wfu? ST12, ST20 (Fuselages only) SF.260D 5Sm ST46Erwin
This Tornado had 617Sqn markingsehusmann wrote: Tornado GR4 15Sqn ZA463/028
You both are right. It had 617 Sq markings on both sides, but had also a 'XV' marking on the righthand side if the tail.Frank Mink wrote:This Tornado had 617Sqn markingsehusmann wrote: Tornado GR4 15Sqn ZA463/028
Greetz,
Frank Mink
A very nice gesture from the base commander. We should consider telling him to never do it again via this civil organisation and send the money from last spottersday to a charity organisation rather than reimburse it. This would really improve the relation between spotters and the Belgian Air Component even further!tonno1970 wrote:However I got an answer from Beauvechain at the website linked before. They are gonna giving back the money.
here the reply that I put as they say to advise other spotters:
Thanks for you email. I heard from a lot of you colleagues "spotters" that the civilian organization during this spotters' day was a real disaster.
As you know, the Defense is confronted nowadays with a lot of other challenges than the organization of such events; this is the reason why we tried for the 1st time to involve a civilian company to help us.
We sincerely regret what happened during this spotters' day and I think we got a lot of lessons learned.
The water distribution to all of you was a military initiative because we saw the lacks of the civilian organization. but I confess it should not have happened...
Thanks for sending us your address and your Bank account (IBAN) in order to reimburse you the fee they let you pay for this "non-event"
Could you also let this information pass through your colleagues spotters who were in the same situation.
I you have any other comments, please let me personally know.
My apologizes for this.
P. LAURENT, Ir
Colonel
Commander 1 WING
Paul,Paul van der Linden wrote:tonno1970 wrote:.
A very nice gesture from the base commander. We should consider telling him to never do it again via this civil organisation and send the money from last spottersday to a charity organisation rather than reimburse it. This would really improve the relation between spotters and the Belgian Air Component even further!
Greetings, Paul
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