MIL LOG: USA NOV 2010 day 7

[K2G]

After 30+ years spotting it was my first time to visit the trainings fields in Texas. Serials/Regies between brackets were not read by myself. Units between brackets are markings of preserved aircraft. Fake serials are between " ". c/a = commander aircraft. b/m = bare metal. Additions/Corrections are welcome.

Day 7 November 9:

Questions for today:

- ID of T-38C 3 FTS commander
- ID of T-6A 8 FTS commander with red fintip
- FY of T-38C ..-.378

Vance AFB, Ok
All aircraft read from outside here. No T-38C unit markings were noted. Most T-38C fy's not read by myself.
I was a little too late and had problem with heatwaves. (so tomorrow I will be back here).
T-28A 49-1689 TL-689 USAF std
T-33A 51-4301 TR-301 USAF std
T-37B 68-8050 EN USAF std
These aircraft were parked on the edge of ramp. No further preserved aircraft were noted from outside.
T-1A 90-0403 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 90-0410 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 91-0077 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 91-0080 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 91-0084 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 92-0343 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 92-0351 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 93-0639 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 93-0641 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 93-0642 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 93-0645 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 93-0646 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 93-0648 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 93-0650 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 93-0653 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 93-0654 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 94-0118 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A (94-0122) VN 71OG USAF AETC c/a
T-1A (94-0123) VN 32FTS USAF AETC c/a
T-1A 94-0125 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 94-0126 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 94-0127 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 94-0128 VN 32FTS USAF AETC
T-1A 95-0070 VN 32FTS USAF AETC

T-38C VN 3FTS USAF AETC c/a
T-38C 62-3703 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 63-8146 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 63-8247 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 64-13199 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 64-13219 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 64-13233 VN 3FTS USAF AETC
T-38C 64-13235 VN 25FTS USAF AETC
T-38C 64-13246 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 64-13275 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 64-13289 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 64-13299 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 65-10335 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 65-10366 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 65-10377 VN 3FTS USAF AETC
T-38C 65-10385 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 65-10396 VN 25FTS USAF AETC
T-38C 65-10430 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 65-10434 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 65-10435 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 65-10449 VN 25FTS USAF AETC
T-38C 65-10473 VN 25FTS USAF AETC
T-38C 66-4370 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 67-14915 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 67-14928 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 67-14936 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 67-14940 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 67-14945 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 67-14949 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 67-14958 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 68-8117 VN 25FTS USAF AETC
T-38C 68-8130 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 68-8144 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 68-8159 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 68-8160 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 68-8171 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 68-8173 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 68-8193 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 69-7080 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 6.-.378 VN USAF AETC
T-38C (70-1562) VN 25FTS USAF AETC c/a
T-38C 70-1565 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 70-1566 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 70-1589 VN USAF AETC
T-38C 70-1950 VN USAF AETC
T-38C (70-1955) VN 5FTS USAF AETC c/a
T-6A Texan II VN 8FTS USAF AETC c/a red
T-6A Texan II 01-3610 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 01-3611 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 01-3615 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 01-3619 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 01-3623 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 01-3629 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 03-3687 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 03-3702 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 03-3703 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 04-3708 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 04-3715 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 04-3716 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 04-3719 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 04-3721 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 04-3723 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 04-3725 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 04-3726 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 04-3733 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 04-3735 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 04-3738 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 04-3741 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 04-3743 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 04-3744 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 04-3745 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 04-3746 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 04-3747 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 04-3750 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 04-3752 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 05-3761 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3762 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3770 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3771 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3780 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3781 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3782 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3784 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3791 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3792 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3793 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 05-3794 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 05-3795 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3799 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 05-3800 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 05-3802 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 06-3815 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 06-3819 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 06-3820 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 06-3824 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 06-3828 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 06-3862 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 07-3875 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 07-3876 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 07-3877 VN 8FTS USAF AETC green
T-6A Texan II 07-3880 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 07-3886 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II (07-3888) VN 8FTS USAF AETC c/a green
T-6A Texan II 07-3891 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 07-3896 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 07-3898 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 07-3901 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 07-3903 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue serial not OK ?!?
T-6A Texan II 08-3912 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 08-3926 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 08-3927 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 08-3928 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 95-3004 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 96-3010 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 96-3013 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red
T-6A Texan II 97-3018 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 97-3022 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 98-3025 VN 33FTS USAF AETC yellow
T-6A Texan II 98-3028 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue
T-6A Texan II 99-3560 VN 8FTS USAF AETC red



Enid-Woodring RAP, Ok
F-4C 63-7440 USAF pres
T-37B 56-3519 VN USAF pres



McConnell Museum, Ks
B-52D 55-0094 USAF
Beech 73 Jet Mentor (N134B)
F-84F 52-9089 USAF
KC-135E 56-3658 (190ARW) USAF
NS-1 9688 USN
O-2B 67-21469 USAF
T-33B N151 FAA
T-37B 58-1977 USAF
U-8F 62-3838 USArmy
WB-47E 51-2387 USAF
Nice to see the sole existing Beech Jet Mentor.
Also here a Swallow marked C6191 and Stearman 4D in restoration NC5634 c/n 4027



McConnell AFB, Ks
A lot of preserved aircraft here, the F-16 and T-33 were not read by myself.
B-1B (83-0068) "86-115" USAF pres
B-47E 53-4213 USAF pres
EC-135K 55-3118 USAF pres
F-100C 54-1993 USAF pres
F-105D 62-4253 USAF pres
F-105F 63-8366 MD USAF pres
F-16A (78-0066) USAF pres
F-4D 66-0271 USAF pres
F-80C (47-0215) "58612" USAF pres
F-84C 47-1513 FS-513 USAF pres
F-86L 52-4256 USAF pres
T-33A (53-5998) USAF pres

KC-135R 58-0035 22ARW USAF AMC
KC-135R 58-0071 22ARW USAF AMC
KC-135R 59-1486 22ARW USAF AMC
KC-135R 62-3554 22ARW USAF AMC
KC-135R 62-3573 22ARW USAF AMC
KC-135R 63-8002 22ARW USAF AMC
KC-135R 63-8022 22ARW USAF AMC
KC-135R 63-8025 22ARW USAF AMC
KC-135R(RT) 60-0357 22ARW USAF AMC
KC-135T 58-0042 22ARW USAF AMC
KC-135T 60-0343 22ARW USAF AMC



McConnell / Boeing, Ks
Nice to see all Italian new Boeings outside. Also here but unread an USAF C-40.
B767T/T N765TT 14-04 IAF
B767T/T 14-02 IAF
B767T/T 14-03 IAF
B767T/T 14-01 IAF
C-40A 166694 nm USN



Topeka-Forbes Field, Ks
Preserved with the Kansas Air Guard museum are: The OH-6A is from the
Silver Eagles Army display team and have code 1. (correcting USAMOOS).
See also: http://www.eaglelead.com/
AH-1S 70-16060 USArmy pres
OH-6A 69-16066 1 (Silver Eagles) USArmy pres special c/s
CH-54A 68-18439 USArmy pres
EB-57B 52-1526 USAF pres
F-4D 65-0801 OY (555TFS) USAF pres
OH-58A 72-21375 (Ks ARNG) USArmy pres
UH-1H 64-13569 (Ks ARNG) USArmy pres

KC-135E 57-1429 (117ARS) USAF std
KC-135E 57-1429 117ARS USAF ANG
KC-135R 57-1427 117ARS USAF ANG
KC-135R 60-0365 117ARS USAF ANG
KC-135R 61-0277 117ARS USAF ANG
KC-135R 63-8004 117ARS USAF ANG
KC-135R 64-14829 117ARS USAF ANG
E-6B 164404 USN
UH-1H 65-10011 USArmy pres
UH-60A 78-22983 Ks ARNG USArmy
RB-57A 52-1480 USAF pres



Forbes Field/Combat AIr Museum:
correcting USAMOOS: correct version of the F-10B and the Lim6 is in original Polish markings.
BT-13A (41-11584) USAF
C-47D 44-76582 N710Z J8-I USAF "Kilroy was here"
CH-54A 67-18424 USArmy
EC-121T 52-3418 USAF
F-101B 57-0410 USAF
F-105D 62-4375 (149TFS) USAF
F-11A 141811 5 (Blue Angels) USN
F-14A 161615 10 (NSAWC) USN
F-4D 66-0268 OY USAF
F-84F 51-1659 FS-659 USAF
F-86H (53-1300) USAF rest. dism.
F9F-5 126226 S-110 (VF51) USN
Harvard Mk.4 (20294) N294CH 294 RCAF
Lim2 1016 N15YY PolAF RusAF c/s
Lim6R 611 PolAF
MiG-21PFM 4315 CzAF
NCH-53A 152399 USN
O-47B (39-0098) USAF
OH-23A (51-16122) USArmy rest. dism.
RU-8D 58-1358 N4835Z USArmy "Lonely Ringer"
T-33A 52-9632 USAF
TA-4J 158716 A-771 (VT7) USN
TF-10B (125807) WF USN
UC-45J 51241 USN "Beech Baby II"
UH-1H 65-9617 USArmy
UH-1M 66-0683 USArmy
US-2A 136486 486 (NAR Det Olathe) USN



Emporia, Ks
Pole-mounted south in town
UH-1H 68-15652 USArmy pres
at the Municipal Airport are:
F-4D 65-0585 (179FIS) USAF pres
JRB-4 76774 USArmy std

[kvanos]

- ID of T-38C 3 FTS commander
> I had this down as 70-1566 l/n 7.10, but this a/c has reverted to normal markings according to your log.

- ID of T-6A 8 FTS commander with red fintip
> I had this down as 05-3801 l/n 9.10, but this a/c has reverted to normal markings according to your log.

- FY of T-38C ..-.378
> 66-4378 3FTS f/n 8.10P, reported as 66-4378 but this a/c is marked 66-378 and therefore could also be 66-8378 (l/n 9.10 EN/90FTS). The USAF should use 4-digit s/n's in these cases!! The older white T-38's with 5-digit s/n's were much easier to identify...

Regards,

Klaas
http://www.ondutchwings.nl/db/usaf.php

[tally]

- ID of T-6A 8 FTS commander with red fintip
T-1A (94-0123) VN 32FTS USAF AETC c/a
T-38C (70-1562) VN 25FTS USAF AETC c/a
T-38C (70-1955) VN 5FTS USAF AETC c/a
T-6A Texan II (07-3888) VN 8FTS USAF AETC c/a green
T-6A Texan II 07-3903 VN 33FTS USAF AETC blue serial not OK ?!?

There are two 8 FTS Commanders to my knowledge (red and green).
Red 8 FTS is 05-3801/VN.
Green 8 FTS is 07-3888/VN.

T-1A as 32 FTS is the 94-0123/VN.

T-38C as 25 FTS is the 70-1562/VN.

T-38C as 5 FTS is the 70-1955/VN.

T-6A noted as 07-3903 I noted as follows 07-3903/RA, 12 FTW, 559 FTS on 08/02/2009.

Cheers,

Seb.

[K2G]

-There are two 8 FTS Commanders to my knowledge (red and green).
Red 8 FTS is 05-3801/VN.
Green 8 FTS is 07-3888/VN.
Seb.

I noted 05-3801 and the 8th FTS commander with the red fintip on the same day,
so there is a new commander aircraft !

Hans