F-16s to Duluth

[Joris Heeren]

Planned for the next two days is the departure from the last F-16´s for Duluth. Six will depart tomorrow and three more on Friday.

Anyone heard the last three departing today on the boomer maybe? Would be nice to know the serials.

Did the final three F-16's destined for Duluth actually leave on Friday 28 May 2010?

I have 6 possibilities (ie. aircraft that I haven't seen reported afterwards). Could someone please update this list with newer 'last noted' dates to deduce the three aircraft?

90-0813 rd apr10
90-0818 rd mar10
90-0829 rd may10 '22FS'
90-0843 rd may10
91-0419 bl sep08 - reportedly unrepairable at SP and sent to CONUS?
91-0474 bl aug09

Apart from these aircraft, 4 aircraft are known to still reside at SP of which I have outdated information. These should be all wearing 480FS markings by now. Could someone please update the list below with newer 'last noted' dates of the old markings?

91-0338 rd apr10 (480 aug10)
91-0366 bl may10 ('480FS' aug10)
91-0416 bl jun10 '52OG' (480 aug10)
91-0417 bl aug10

Many thanks in advance!
Joris

[AMC]

All were seen so far. The last three depart on a Saturday 29.05.10. I have three which were not seen!
90-0829, 90-0843, 91-0474. The flight from 29.05.10 include 91-0464 which is in Edwards now.

[wamovements]

90-0843 was according to ODW last reported at 13.08.2010.

They have the following F-16 fleet based at ETAD:
F-16C 90-0813 SP CC-13 52 FW 480 FS USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 13.8.10
F-16C 90-0818 SP CC-18 52 FW 480 FS USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 13.8.10
F-16C 90-0827 SP CC-27 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P
F-16C 90-0828 SP CC-28 52 FW 480 FS USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10
F-16C 90-0829 SP CC-29 52 FW 480 FS USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 13.8.10
F-16C 90-0833 SP CC-33 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10
F-16D 90-0843 SP CD-10 52 FW 480 FS USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 13.8.10
F-16C 91-0338 SP CC-36 52 FW 480 FS USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 8.10
F-16C 91-0340 SP CC-38 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10 9.10P
F-16C 91-0342 SP CC-40 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P
F-16C 91-0343 SP CC-41 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P
F-16C 91-0344 SP CC-42 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10 9.10P
F-16C 91-0351 SP CC-49 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P
F-16C 91-0352 SP CC-50 52 FW 480 FS m USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 "52 FW"; 10.10P
F-16C 91-0358 SP CC-56 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P
F-16C 91-0360 SP CC-58 52 FW 480 FS bl/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10 9.10P
F-16C 91-0361 SP CC-59 52 FW 480 FS bl/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10 9.10P
F-16C 91-0366 SP CC-64 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 "480 FS"; 10.10P
F-16C 91-0402 SP CC-100 52 FW 480 FS bl/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10 8.10P
F-16C 91-0403 SP CC-101 52 FW 480 FS bl/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P
F-16C 91-0407 SP CC-105 52 FW 480 FS bl/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P
F-16C 91-0412 SP CC-110 52 FW 480 FS USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 13.8.10
F-16C 91-0416 SP CC-114 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10 8.10P
F-16C 91-0417 SP CC-115 52 FW 480 FS USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 13.8.10
F-16C 91-0418 SP CC-116 52 FW 480 FS bl/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10
F-16D 91-0472 SP CD-27 52 FW 480 FS bl/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P
F-16D 91-0474 SP CD-29 52 FW 480 FS USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 13.8.10
F-16D 91-0481 SP CD-36 52 FW 480 FS bl/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P
F-16C 92-3918 SP CC-160 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P
F-16C 96-0080 SP CC-202 52 FW 480 FS r/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10 9.10P
F-16C 96-0083 SP CC-205 52 FW 480 FS bl/wh USAFE USAF Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10 10.10P

[AMC]

HI! What is odw for 90-0843? Did you seen 90-0829 and 91-0474?

[Joris Heeren]

Hi,

90-0843 was according to ODW last reported at 13.08.2010.

I had already noticed that. On 13 August 2010, 480th FS was reactivated. I suspect that the On Dutch Wings website therefore uses this date as the oldest 'last noted' date for all F-16's that they put under the 480th FS, and I am not convinced that these l/n dates are actual sightings (unless otherwise proven, and I will stand corrected!) but just database filling 'parameters'. In my personal opinion, that is bad practise for database integrity and quality. I would rather like to see an outdated database with 'real' information than a database with assumptions in it (which is an assumption on my side btw...).

Regards,
Joris

[kvanos]

Hi Joris/all,

It was wrong from me to assume these serials as belonging to the 480th FS, I have learned from this and it will not happen again. I discovered my mistake sometime after I'd deleted all the info about the 22nd/23rd FS, because of this I completely lost track of the situation.

And you're right about the 13.08.10 date, this was the day both the 22nd/23rd FS stopped to excist and the 480th FS was born. I used this as a reference/starting point for future sightings. Normally I only use "mm/yy" for the last note date, exceptions are information that has been found in press releases and usually contain transfers that have not (yet) been noted by the spotting community, then I use the full date (dd.mm.yy). An example is E-3C 82-0007 which arrived at Tinker AFB on 18.11.10 for upgrade to block 40/45 configuration with the Oklahoma City Air Logistics Center (OC-ALC).

Now, for clarification, the current dates for the 480th FS are as follows: the ones with 13.8.10 as l/n have NOT been noted with the 480th FS, all the others have been noted after 13.8.10 and are confirmed as being with the 480th FS.

An overview: a press release stated that there are 30 (from my memory, is this correct?) a/c assigned to the 480th FS, I have 31:

F-16C 90-0813 SP CC-13 USAFE 52 FW 480 FS 13.8.10 Spangdahlem AB GER
F-16C 90-0818 SP CC-18 USAFE 52 FW 480 FS 13.8.10 Spangdahlem AB GER
F-16C 90-0827 SP CC-27 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 11.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10P
F-16C 90-0828 SP CC-28 USAFE 52 FW 480 FS 9.10 Spangdahlem AB GER
F-16C 90-0829 SP CC-29 USAFE 52 FW 480 FS 13.8.10 Spangdahlem AB GER
F-16C 90-0833 SP CC-33 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 11.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 11.10P
F-16D 90-0843 SP CD-10 USAFE 52 FW 480 FS 13.8.10 Spangdahlem AB GER
F-16C 91-0338 SP CC-36 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 12.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 12.10P
F-16C 91-0340 SP CC-38 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 12.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 12.10P
F-16C 91-0342 SP CC-40 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 11.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 11.10P
F-16C 91-0343 SP CC-41 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 10.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10P
F-16C 91-0344 SP CC-42 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 9.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10P
F-16C 91-0351 SP CC-49 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 11.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 11.10P
F-16C 91-0352 SP CC-50 USAFE 52 FW m 480 FS 10.10 Spangdahlem AB GER "52 FW"; 10.10P
F-16C 91-0358 SP CC-56 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 10.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10P
F-16C 91-0360 SP CC-58 USAFE 52 FW bl/wh 480 FS 9.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10P
F-16C 91-0361 SP CC-59 USAFE 52 FW bl/wh 480 FS 9.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 9.10P
F-16C 91-0366 SP CC-64 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 10.10 Spangdahlem AB GER "480 FS"; 10.10P
F-16C 91-0402 SP CC-100 USAFE 52 FW bl/wh 480 FS 9.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 8.10P
F-16C 91-0403 SP CC-101 USAFE 52 FW bl/wh 480 FS 10.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10P
F-16C 91-0407 SP CC-105 USAFE 52 FW bl/wh 480 FS 10.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10P
F-16C 91-0412 SP CC-110 USAFE 52 FW 480 FS 13.8.10 Spangdahlem AB GER
F-16C 91-0416 SP CC-114 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 9.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 8.10P
F-16C 91-0417 SP CC-115 USAFE 52 FW 480 FS 13.8.10 Spangdahlem AB GER
F-16C 91-0418 SP CC-116 USAFE 52 FW bl/wh 480 FS 10.10 Spangdahlem AB GER
F-16D 91-0472 SP CD-27 USAFE 52 FW bl/wh 480 FS 11.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10P
F-16D 91-0474 SP CD-29 USAFE 52 FW 480 FS 11.10 Spangdahlem AB GER
F-16D 91-0481 SP CD-36 USAFE 52 FW bl/wh 480 FS 10.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10P
F-16C 92-3918 SP CC-160 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 10.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10P
F-16C 96-0080 SP CC-202 USAFE 52 FW rd/wh 480 FS 11.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 11.10P
F-16C 96-0083 SP CC-205 USAFE 52 FW bl/wh 480 FS 10.10 Spangdahlem AB GER 10.10P

Not all a/c have been repainted yet with the new "Warhawks" tailband.

The following 18 (20?) SHOULD be assigned to the 179th FS/MN ANG:

d/d 27.4.10: (only 4 made it to Duluth this day, did 341/349 go to OO-ALC first?)
F-16C 91-0336 CC-34 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 7.10 Duluth IAP MN 7.10P; 22FS mks
F-16C 91-0341 CC-39 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 4.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0349 CC-47 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 4.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0388 CC-86 ANG 148 FW bl/wh 179 FS 4.10 Duluth IAP MN 4.10P; f/n
F-16C 92-3915 CC-157 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 4.10 Duluth IAP MN 4.10P; f/n; 23FS mks
F-16C 96-0081 CC-203 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 7.10 Duluth IAP MN 7.10P; 23FS mks

d/d 30.4.10:
F-16C 91-0339 CC-37 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 4.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0391 CC-89 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 4.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0405 CC-103 ANG 148 FW bl/wh 179 FS 10.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0406 CC-104 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 4.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0414 CC-112 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 4.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0421 CC-119 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 4.10 Duluth IAP MN

d/d 27.5.10:
F-16C 90-0831 CC-31 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 5.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0408 CC-106 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 5.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0409 CC-107 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 5.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0410 CC-108 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 5.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 91-0420 CC-118 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 5.10 Duluth IAP MN
F-16C 96-0082 CC-204 ANG 148 FW 179 FS 5.10 Duluth IAP MN

d/d 29.5.10: 91-0464 (+ 90-0829? and 90-0843?). 91-0474 was noted in November. 91-0464 was seen last June at Edwards still in full 22nd FS markings.

Obviously I'm looking for sightings of the a/c that still have the 13.8.10 last note date, can anyone help?

If anyone has updates/corrections, please let me know!

Best regards,

Klaas
http://www.ondutchwings.nl/db/usaf.php

[Joris Heeren]

Hi,

A press release stated that a crew chief dedication ceremony was held on 13 August 2010 for 29 crew chiefs, so I suspect that amount equals the number of F-16's at Spangdahlem.

That would back-up the numbers I have:

18 departed to Duluth
1 departed to Edwards 29may10 (91-0464)
1 to be repaired in CONUS (91-0419)
26 confirmed with 480FS (according to my own list)
5 status unknown (probably 2 more to CONUS 29may10 and 3 still on strength)

Regards,
Joris

[wamovements]

You could be right but 91-0419 won't be repaired, it is wfu after to many failures with unknown reason.

Hi,

A press release stated that a crew chief dedication ceremony was held on 13 August 2010 for 29 crew chiefs, so I suspect that amount equals the number of F-16's at Spangdahlem.

That would back-up the numbers I have:

18 departed to Duluth
1 departed to Edwards 29may10 (91-0464)
1 to be repaired in CONUS (91-0419)
26 confirmed with 480FS (according to my own list)
5 status unknown (probably 2 more to CONUS 29may10 and 3 still on strength)

Regards,
Joris

[kvanos]

I did some digging in the news releases and came up with the following:

21 a/c departed; 20 to Duluth, one to Edwards
http://www.spangdahlem.af.mil/news/stor ... =123201484
"The six aircraft are the first of 21 that will depart the base. The remainder of the aircraft will depart in increments scheduled to be complete by the end of May as part of CAF Restructuring. Twenty aircraft will transition to the 148th Fighter Wing, Minnesota Air National Guard, Duluth, Minn., while one F-16 will transfer to Edwards Air Force Base in California."
http://www.148fw.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123202640
"The planes, the first of 20 the Air Force is transferring from the 22nd Fighter Squadron at Spangdahlem Air Base, Germany, will replace the 148th's current Block 25 F-16s."

29 a/c remain: http://www.spangdahlem.af.mil/news/stor ... =123217686
"Twenty-nine of the wing's dedicated crew chiefs were each assigned an F-16 Fighting Falcon during a ceremony today, recognizing them as the maintenance experts on their respective aircraft assigned to the 480th Fighter Squadron."

So I will ask the question again: does anyone have sightings/photos after 29 May 2010 for the following a/c (if yes, when?) :

90-0813 (480FS?)
90-0818 (480FS?)
90-0829 (179FS?)
90-0843 (179FS?)
91-0412 (480FS?)
91-0417 (480FS?)

Klaas

[AMC]

Do someone know the departure callsign for the three F-16´s which left on 29.05.10?

[joost]

Do someone know the departure callsign for the three F-16´s which left on 29.05.10?

RETRO 91/92/93 Their tanker was RCH063. Boom freq {340.650} interflight <143.050>

[AMC]

Thank you very much for you help!