Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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EBBE 02-05-2011

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Op bezoek 11h00 is hercules CH07 als ook de GRAS :sunny:
en om 11h15 formatie van drie Augustas H01,H07 en H27

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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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De H01 heb je waarschijnlijk niet juist gelezen: die stond n.l. voor onderhoud binnen.
Wij hebben op de basis alléén de H05 zien vertrekken.
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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Hoi Theo, dat vraag ik me af... Toen wij 's middags om 14.15 de hangar binnenkwamen stond de H-01 vooraan en wilde men net beginnen om de rotorbladen er af te halen. Het is dus goed mogelijk dat hij 's morgens nog heeft gevlogen. We konden diverse vliegbewegingen van de A109's zien: toen we 's morgens het veld opgingen met de bus vertrokken er twee, toen we bij de Marchetti's stonden vertrokken er drie (rond 11.15; de drie die Stafhunter noemde), vervolgens ging de H-05 van de maintenance-hangar taxiënd naar de flightline van 18 Smd; toen we 's middags weer naar de overkant gingen vertrokken er ook net 3 heli's; ze kwamen terug toen we in het museum waren. Gegeven het feit dat we geen andere heli's op de flightline hebben gezien is het waarschijnlijk (maar allesbehalve zeker) dat 's middags de H-05, H-07 en H-27 vlogen.
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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Frank; daar maak je een punt. Inderdaad mogelijk dat de H01 "vers" naar binnen geschoven is.
Ik wil dan ook niet uitsluiten, dat de waarneming toch juist was.
Maar wellicht kan Stafhunter nog wat licht gooien op zijn waarneming?
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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As for the request for the full log of the GRAS/EWAS/SGV/AGL base visit on May 2, 2011, here goes:

preserved:
BR-10 Mirage VBR 1Wing Historical Centre (1W-HC)
"EG80/SV-J" Meteor F.8 (really EG-79, ex-Brustem) 1W-HC
(FA-05) F-16AM 21 Log Wing (on trailer, tail and wings only; apparently got the same tail as FA-100 so that's where the initial mix-up came from; thanks Wim!)
FA-18 F-16A 1W-HC
(FA-55) F-16A 21 Log Wing scs 30years F-16
FA-113 F-16AM gate (edit, correcting a typo; thanks Wim!)
FR-32 RF-84F 1W-HC
FT-24 T-33A 1W-HC
FX-04 F-104G gate 1W-HC
FX-15 F-104G dump 1W-HC (ex-Tongeren)
FX-47 F-104G 1W-HC
(ID-16)/JE-P Hunter F.4 1W-HC
(ID-26)/OV-K Hunter F.4 1W-HC
MT-35 CM170R near 5Smd hangar
MT-48 CM170R 1W-HC
ST-11 SF260MB 1W-HC
ST-14 SF260MB near 5Smd hangar
A-46 SA318C Alouette II 1W-HC
B-11/LK BN-2A Islander 21 Log Wing (ex Bierset)
G-03(1) Ce182 (wreck) near 21 Log Wing hangar
H-16 A109BA 21 Log Wing
V-64 SV4B 1W-HC
24+29 Mig21bis 1W-HC

Alpha-Jet hangar:
AT-05, AT-08, AT-15, AT-19, AT-26, AT-28

A109BA hangar:
H-01, H-20, H-22, H-24, H-25, H-38, H-45

Flightline/flying:
H-05, H-07, H-27 (last 2 read off from outside by Stafhunter)

Marchetti-maintenance hangar:
LB-01, (LB-05) L.21B Super Cub (05 not fully painted but read from logbooks) + 1 unidentified frame
ST-12, ST-17, ST-23(RD), ST-25, ST-26, ST-36: SF.260MB
ST-41, ST-42: SF.260D

5Smd hangar:
ST-18, ST-24, ST-34: SF.260MB
ST-43: SF.260D

Flightlines/flying: (HR: Hardship Red c/s; RD: Red Devil c/s))
ST-02(HR), ST-03(RD), ST-04(RD), ST-06, ST-16, ST-27(RD), ST-30(300000hrs), ST-31, ST-32(HR), ST-35: SF.260MB
ST-40(40years), ST-44, ST-45, ST-47, ST-48: SF.260D

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CH-07 C-130H 20 Smd for approaches and t/g's
Last edited by frank kramer on 07 May 2011, 22:16, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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Thanks for posting the log.
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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Hardship Red is one of the callsigns used by 5Smd. It is also the name of the 2010 demo-team, that operated with specially decorated aircraft. This team was superseded for 2011 by the "new" Red Devils. The red Devils existed in the 1960's with Hunters, and in the 1970's and '80's with Fougas.
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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Thanks for your answer. I already found the answer via google, that's why I deleted my question.
I still need 2 Marchetti's: ST-02 (HR) and ST-27 (RD).
So hope to see them soon on a show.
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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some corrections:

(FA-100) F-16AM 21 Log Wing (on trailer, tail and wings only) --> that was FA05. The fuselage was already gone to the ardennes for exhibition

FA-133 F-16AM gate --> that was FA113, FA133 still flies with 10W
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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T-O wrote:Frank; daar maak je een punt. Inderdaad mogelijk dat de H01 "vers" naar binnen geschoven is.
Ik wil dan ook niet uitsluiten, dat de waarneming toch juist was.
Maar wellicht kan Stafhunter nog wat licht gooien op zijn waarneming?
voor het bewijs kijk even bij http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=73758 :respect:
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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Was er rond half 3 alleen 2 Marchetis hardship blue verder qua vliegbeweging niets er was wel een oefening aan de gang er waren veel voertuigen buiten het veld en er lagen veel zandzakken opgestapeld als zijnde observatie posten zo werd er af en toe ook een rookpot afgestoken en klonk luchtalarm nou onze kat van de buren klinkt harder

indrukwekend maar kon niet tippen aan wat wij gewend zijn met de airpower demo

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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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BEAUVECHAIN THURSDAY 2011-07-21 RW04L/R
Weather: scattered/broken clouds, light haze, some sun, light wind,
thundery showers at distance with very dramatic backlight

Based aircraft (1 Wing/5 Squadron, Wing Heli):
SF.260D 5 Sqn ST47 T14:17 L15:32+ a4
SF.260MB 5 Sqn ST04 demo c/s T15:07 L16:53#4
SF.260MB 5 Sqn ST27 demo c/s T15:07 L16:53#4
SF.260MB 5 Sqn ST03 demo c/s T15:07 L16:53#4
SF.260MB 5 Sqn ST23 demo c/s T15:07 L16:53#4
SF.260D 5 Sqn ST45 T15:07 L17:02* +a/d
SF.260MB 5 Sqn ST26 T15:07 L17:03* +a/d
SF.260MB 5 Sqn ST15 demo c/s T15:07 L17:02* +a/d
SF.260MB 5 Sqn ST02 spec c/s T15:07 L17:03* +a/d
SF.260MB 5 Sqn ST16 T15:07 L17:06#4+a/d
SF.260MB 5 Sqn ST22 T15:07 L17:05#4+a/d
SF.260MB 5 Sqn ST06 T15:07 L17:05#4+a/d
SF.260D 5 Sqn ST46 T15:07 L17:05#4+a/d
A.109BA Wing Heli H36 T15:25 L16:50f3+a/d
A.109BA Wing Heli H07 T15:25 L16:50f3+a/d
A.109BA Wing Heli H29 T15:25 L16:50f3+a/d
A.109BA Wing Heli H24 T15:25 L15:38
A.109BA Wing Heli H20 T15:25 L16:51f4+a/d
A.109BA Wing Heli H21 T15:25 L16:51f4+a/d
A.109BA Wing Heli H41 T15:25 L16:51f4+a/d
A.109BA Wing Heli H31 T15:25 L16:51f4+a/d

Detached aircraft (Advanced Jet Training School):
Alpha Jet 1B+ AJetS AT05 no badge T15:45 L16:35#3+a/d
Alpha Jet 1B+ AJetS AT11 T15:45 L16:35#3+a/d
Alpha Jet 1B+ AJetS AT23 T15:45 L16:35#3+a/d
Alpha Jet 1B+ AJetS AT27 T15:45 L16:36#4+a/d
Alpha Jet 1B+ AJetS AT13 T15:45 L16:36#4+a/d
Alpha Jet 1B+ AJetS AT25 no badge T15:46 L16:36#4+a/d
Alpha Jet 1B+ AJetS AT32 no badge T15:46 L16:37#4

Additional movements:
F-16AM 10 Wing (FA125) V16:18 flyby
F-16AM 10 Wing (FA131) V16:18 flyby
F-16BM 10 Wing FB18 spec tail V16:18 flyby
F-16BM 10 Wing FB12 V16:18 flyby
F-16BM 10 Wing FB20 V16:18 flyby
A.330-322 15 Wing CS-TMT V16:23 flyby
ERJ.135LR 15 Wing (CE01) V16:23 flyby
C-130H 15 Wing CH10 V16:23 flyby
C-130H 15 Wing CH12 V16:23 flyby
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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Richard de Florennes wrote:

Additional movements:
F-16AM 10 Wing (FA125) V16:18 flyby
F-16AM 10 Wing (FA131) V16:18 flyby
F-16BM 10 Wing FB18 spec tail V16:18 flyby
F-16BM 10 Wing FB12 V16:18 flyby
F-16BM 10 Wing FB20 V16:18 flyby
Nice log !

From Kleine Brogel the following F-16s flew:

FA-82
FA-131
FB-18 (OCU tail)
FB-20
FB-23

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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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thanks for the addition/update. Anybody made photos at Beauvechain that day?
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Re: Beauvechain (EBBE) - 2011 MIL

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DUE TO HOLIDAYS AND ADDITIONAL MILITARY CLOSING DAYS, ALL BELGIAN
MILITARY AIRFIELDS AND ATC CENTRES WILL BE CLOSED (EXCEPT EBMB). ALL
MILITARY AIR ACTIVITIES OTHER THAN SAR AND QRA ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN
THE BOUNDERIES OF THE BRUSSELS FIR/UIR. 28 OCT 15:30 2011 UNTIL 03 NOV 07:30
2011. CREATED: 25 OCT 11:40 2011
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