Musee Europeen de l'Aviation de Chasse - Montelimar

[Nielis]

I was the on the 5th of august and I noted the following. Any additions are welcome

Flamant - 172 FAF
SV.4 Stampe - F-BMRU Civ
SK.37 Viggen - 73 SweAF
MS Paris - 116 FN
G-91T - MM6362 ItAF
F-1C - 37 FAF
Etendard IVM - 30 FN
Super Mystere - 21 FAF
Mystere IV - 186 FAF
Ouragon - 214 FAF
Vampire - XD613 RAF
Mirage IIIE - 418 FAF it is in parts in the corner
Mig-23 - 582 USSR
Mirage IIIA - 09 FAF
T-33 - 51-4045 FAF
DC-3 - N56NA Civ
Broussard - 124 FAF
TS-11 - 1221 PLAF
Fouga - 101 FAF
Fouga - 57 FAF
Alpha Jet A - 40+18 GAF
Mirage IIIC - 55 FAF
Mig-17 - 1910 PLAF
Mirage IIIRS - R-2103 SwissAF
Mirage IIIBS - J-2001 SwissAF
Mirage IIIS - J-2304 SwissAF
T-33 - 314-UV FAF
Alcyon - 79 FAF
Mirage V - BA53 BAF it is in parts in the corner
Mirage IIIB - 233
Jaguar E - E28 In the restoration hall
Al.II - 152 FAF
Mirage IIEX - 467 FAF
Hunter - J-4067 SwissAF
Mirage 2000-4 - 04 FAF
Mig-21UM - 281 DDR
Caravale 3 - 116 FAF
Crusader - 4 FN
Meteor NF-11 - WM296 FAF
Fouga - 119 FN
Bronco - 99+27 GAF
Bronco - F-AKZM noted in a hangar on the side of the museum.
F-84F - FU-123 BAF

[AndyMarden]

The dismantled aircraft with serial 418 is a Mirage IIIE.
Andy Marden

[Fogg]

The French serial of the Meteor is NF11-1.
314-UV is 21113 according to Scramble.
German T-33 9454 53-5778) used to be at the entrance in good condition.

[Sjoerd]

It's 2014 now, so time for an update!

Below is the report of a brief stop over on our way North. All is noted from the outside as the museum was still closed at that time.

26-7-2014

Outside
(FU-123) F-84F
40+18 Alpha Jet A
281 MiG-21U.600 ex 23+94
582 MiG-23MF ex 20+03
1910 Lim-5R
1221 TS-11-bis-DF
94+54 T-33A spec. c/s
J-4067 Hunter F.58
N56NA C-53C ex USAAF 43-02023
49 Br.1050M
4 F-8E
57/13-TD CM.170
(101) CM.170 spec. c/s
86/CG Falcon 20C
116/CE SE.210-3
172/319-DD MD.312
NF11-1 Meteor
09/11 Mirage 3A
55/10-RN Mirage 3C
467 Mirage 3EX
31/BD Mirage 4P
04 Mirage 2000C
516/5-OL Mirage 2000B
235/30-SK Mirage F1CT
A157/7-HH Jaguar A
(21113/314-UV) T-33A

stored
(48) Mystère IVA no tail
418/QQ Mirage 3E disassembled
XN574/92 Jet Provost T3A disassembled

The Jet Provost was a recent addition, and a picture can be found too in the latest Scramble issue. I hope this is of interest.

Cheers,

[AndyMarden]

Sjoerd,
Thanks for update.
Can you please reconfirm Flamant 210?
This was reported at St Yan in 2013 (so either incorrectly, or it has returned)
Andy Marden

[Sjoerd]

Hi Andy,

I will check some of the pictures I took and let u know!

Cheers,

[Rene Klok]

Sjoerd,

I was there in August 2010. My pics show the following deviations compared to your report.

40+18 Alpha Jet A
94+54 T-33A spec. c/s
10 CM170 spec. c/s
F-AZEO/210 MD.312
09/11 Mirage 3A
467/13-.. Mirage 3EX
48/314-ZF Mystere IVA
418/3-QQ Mirage 3E

[Sjoerd]

Sjoerd,

I was there in August 2010. My pics show the following deviations compared to your report.

40+18 Alpha Jet A
94+54 T-33A spec. c/s
10 CM170 spec. c/s
F-AZEO/210 MD.312
09/11 Mirage 3A
467/13-.. Mirage 3EX
48/314-ZF Mystere IVA
418/3-QQ Mirage 3E

40+18 & 94+54 are correct, this is a misread/typ-e from my end.

- CM170 10 is w/o some time and EWR has 101 as being preserved in spec c/s. I have not actually read this serial myself this time, but in 2006 I did and the Fouga is still at the same spot.
- MD.312 210 will be checked at my photos
- Mirage 3A 09/11 should be interpreted as actually serial nr 09, with code 11 on the middle of the fuselage
- Mirage 3EX 467 only the serial nr was read as the code was blocked (remind, I read all from the outside)
- Mystere 48 was seen head on, stored close to the Mirage 4P. This one was actually not read and again assumed from the position and the fact I noted it earlier in 2006.
- Mirage 3E wore only 418 in the tail and QQ on the jet intake. There was no (faded) "3" noted by me and the fact the code was on the intake (instead of below the cockpit) suggest this is a former CEV aircraft and therefore only wears the two letters.

I hope this helps you too.

[Rene Klok]

Sjoerd,

I was there in August 2010. My pics show the following deviations compared to your report.

40+18 Alpha Jet A
94+54 T-33A spec. c/s
10 CM170 spec. c/s
F-AZEO/210 MD.312
09/11 Mirage 3A
467/13-.. Mirage 3EX
48/314-ZF Mystere IVA
418/3-QQ Mirage 3E

40+18 & 94+54 are correct, this is a misread/typ-e from my end.

- CM170 10 is w/o some time and EWR has 101 as being preserved in spec c/s. I have not actually read this serial myself this time, but in 2006 I did and the Fouga is still at the same spot.
- MD.312 210 will be checked at my photos
- Mirage 3A 09/11 should be interpreted as actually serial nr 09, with code 11 on the middle of the fuselage
- Mirage 3EX 467 only the serial nr was read as the code was blocked (remind, I read all from the outside)
- Mystere 48 was seen head on, stored close to the Mirage 4P. This one was actually not read and again assumed from the position and the fact I noted it earlier in 2006.
- Mirage 3E wore only 418 in the tail and QQ on the jet intake. There was no (faded) "3" noted by me and the fact the code was on the intake (instead of below the cockpit) suggest this is a former CEV aircraft and therefore only wears the two letters.

I hope this helps you too.

Thanks Sjoerd. Indeed your answer helped me too with some updates..
With regard to Mirage 3EX 467. Code 13 is not followed by space for two letters. Instead the type designation Mirage 3EX is right behind the 13.

[Sjoerd]

@Andy,

I'm a bit ashamed to say, but it looks I mistakenly noted 2 MD.312's in my notebook, but in fact they are one and the same after checking my photos. It's definately 172. After a thorough check I also found a T-33A hiding behind the Jag, so that one is added to the report as well now.

Thanks for your help/advise!

[AndyMarden]

Sjoerd,
Thanks for checking.
Andy