HOAX ? Foreign Military Sales F-18C/D Hornets for Argentina?

[Stratofreighter]

http://www.aereo.jor.br/wp-content/uplo ... CA0011.jpg


http://www.aereo.jor.br/2011/12/30/arge ... do-brasil/

But where's the "official" notification on http://www.dsca.mil
Strange...
Hoax? Fake? Or is the official website not up-to-date

And when did the last F-18C/D roll of the production line?

[Arjan]

Finally some aircraft to beat those bloody Limey Harriers......whoops they are gone allready!

[DJdeRidder]

The bottom of the page (when translated) says:
"The news is a joke circulating in Argentina forums, but not too far from what may happen soon."

[Stratofreighter]

Well,

The Dutch
http://pilotsandplanesmilitary.com/2012 ... argentine/
and
http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nl-NL/Ar ... -18_Hornet were well and truly "fooled" then...

[Erik_7Xi]

Seeing is believing - the Argentine economy is in tatters, the country is broke and is having difficulty keeping its current fleet air worthy.

Even if they would get the F/A-18Ds (ex USMC possibly? Which are replaced with RAF Harrier GR9s?), I doubt they would keep them flying for long ..
Which is the same reason why Croatia isn't jumping at the idea of getting ex-Luftwaffe F-4F ICE IIs .. very capable interceptors with updated radar and AIM-120 capability.. but the costs per flying hour are staggering!

[ehusmann]

Seeing is believing - the Argentine economy is in tatters, the country is broke

Really? Living in the past are you? The Argentine fold was a decade ago. Since then it has been outperforming just about any country IN THE WORLD! From wikipedia:

The socio-economic situation has been steadily improving and the economy grew around 9% annually for five consecutive years between 2003 and 2007, and 7% in 2008. The global recession of 2007–10 affected the economy in 2009, with growth slowing to 0.8%.[2] High economic growth resumed in 2010, and GDP expanded by over 8.5%.[31]

High inflation is still a problem in Argentina, but "economy is in tatters" and "the country is broke" are utter non sense. Get you facts straight, please.

Erwin

[Erik_7Xi]

High inflation is still a problem in Argentina, but "economy is in tatters" and "the country is broke" are utter non sense. Get you facts straight, please.

Economic growth is an incredibly subjective measure and reveales nothing of the government's debt situation - fact is that Argentina completely defaulted on its ability to repay the interest of its national debt in 2002, a situation not too unlike that got Greece, Spain, Portugal and now Italy into deep financial trouble. Despite restructuring its debt (which does not mean it has been paid it, it simply eases its debt burden to provide more liquidity, enabling a government to remain functional), Argentina's government deficit is still wearing the results of the massive repayment to the IMF - a move questioned by many. Also Argentina's debt swaps may have cleared its books somewhat again, that was a very identical bubble that certainly has bursted for many European countries (and the US domestically at a massive scale in 2007-2009).

Although Venezuela has been buying lots of debt bonds, the government would be hard pressed to afford any large scale military investments, especially as it has been cutting drastically in the budgets. Argentina's military spending is one of the lowest (if not the lowest) in South America, at just 0.9% of GDP. That's perhaps sufficient to keep the lights on but certainly not to fork out the cash for the 20 or so F/A-18D's complete with all the training, support and equipment costs. And then there is the question of the US Government approving the sale of late generation AIM-9 and AIM-120 missiles to Argentina.

[ehusmann]

Economic growth is an incredibly subjective measure and reveales nothing of the government's debt situation

Oh, and the debt situation is an objective measure? Especially knowing that the Argentinian debt is lower than the Dutch. Does that make that the Dutch "economy is in tatters" and that "the country is broke". I don't think so. So I stand by my position that you are talking non sense with those two expressions, ESPECIALLY if you are solely basing it on the (rather historic) debt situation of the country.

And besides, you are barking up the wrong tree since this is already shown to be a hoax.

Erwin

[Erik_7Xi]

Hmm yes the Dutch government has defaulted on its national debt interest payments when exactly?

My wording may have been ill chosen but that doesn't change the fact that the Argentine Air Force simply does not have the budget to purchase and operate any F/A-18s. Hoax or no hoax.

[Glidepath]

Economic growth is an incredibly subjective measure and reveales nothing of the government's debt situation

Oh, and the debt situation is an objective measure? Especially knowing that the Argentinian debt is lower than the Dutch. Does that make that the Dutch "economy is in tatters" and that "the country is broke". I don't think so. So I stand by my position that you are talking non sense with those two expressions, ESPECIALLY if you are solely basing it on the (rather historic) debt situation of the country.

And besides, you are barking up the wrong tree since this is already shown to be a hoax.

Erwin

so why bother sending these cranky posts, ?
Social talk and other non-aviation topics including photos. Note this a FUN area!

Hmm yes the Dutch government has defaulted on its national debt interest payments when exactly?

My wording may ................ Hoax or no hoax.

Haven't you heard? Dutch enomomic growth over 2011 will be 7,8 %, once recalculated, and for 1212, it will be double digits!!
pensions will rise with 35% and the military will get +25% budget and 10000 more men and partly paid internships for 2500 unemployed youth.

<serious mode back on>
some expert organisations do advocate the idea that the current debt level, state and consumer wise, in several -here unnamed- eurozone countries is proof of being on the verge of...or slightly over....
So not much needed to tip the balance. Same applies for 'some' big South American states even the biggie with huge growth figures.
Greece was 'doing fine', remember?

the story of the bubble continues.