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More on that mysterious F-22 Raptor cough/ "Raptor Hoest"...

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:arrow: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/22-fighte ... d=16303962
F-22 Fighter Pilots Battle Mysterious 'Raptor Cough'

By LEE FERRAN
May 9, 2012
As the Air Force searches desperately for the source of a mysterious and potentially deadly oxygen system problem in its $79 billion fleet of F-22 Raptor fighter jets, it is also investigating why the jets' pilots are coughing so often after missions that the pilots have taken to calling it the "Raptor cough."
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:arrow: http://www.stripes.com/news/critics-won ... m-1.178674
Critics wonder: Could the F-22's skin be the problem?

Air Force investigators are looking into the possibility that toxic substances are infiltrating the pilot's air supply.
That's one of their main theories. The other is that pilots are simply not getting enough oxygen.

Pierre Sprey, who was heavily involved in the design of the F-16 fighter and has been critical of the F-22,
noted many possible sources for toxic fumes on a jet like the Raptor, such as hydraulic fluid or overheated plastics.

His belief that stealth coatings play a role is based on anecdotes that seem unique to the F-22 — the so-called "Raptor cough" and feelings of disorientation that persist well after a mission ends.
He recently outlined his views in an article co-authored with Dina Rasor, an investigator and author who founded the Bauman and Rasor Group, which helps whistleblowers file lawsuits under federal law.

Sprey said if those symptoms are unique to Raptor pilots, perhaps it's connected to what is unique about the Raptor itself: The stealth material, which contains layers bonded together with noxious adhesives.

It is a "very, very serious problem if materials in the Raptor skin are generating vapors at levels high enough to cause a pilot to feel dizzy, he said.

"By the time it gets high enough to give you something like hypoxia, you've really had a snootful," he said.

Sen. Mark R. Warner has heard from several Raptor pilots and Air Force flight surgeons who have confided their concerns about the fighter.
The idea that the stealth coatings could be source of toxins is one of the theories coming "from credible people," said Warner spokesman Kevin Hall.

No evidence

The Air Force says there is no clinical evidence that the Raptor is making pilots sick, and it has other explanations for the persistent cough and disorientation that, in a few cases, lasts beyond the end of the mission.

Meanwhile, it continues to investigate 11 unexplained incidents of hypoxia that have occurred since September, when the aircraft returned to the skies after a four-month stand-down.

Earlier hypoxia incidents had prompted the stand-down, and the Air Force lifted it without determining the root cause of the problem, although it enacted additional safety measures and vowed to monitor the condition of pilots.

Investigators now believe that the 11 incidents might be caused by several factors that could be interconnected in some way, according to Brig Gen. Daniel Wyman, the Air Combat Command surgeon general.

"It may be part of their operating environment," he recently told reporters. "It may be part of the systems we have in place in the aircraft to protect them. It may be part of some potential contaminant. It may be all of those.
We continue to look at that. But the manifestations are all physiologic."

Raptor cough

F-22 pilots breathe in high concentrations of oxygen while experiencing high G forces during flight. It prevents them from passing out during intense pressure that literally multiplies their body weight. Inhaling oxygen-rich air can cause "micro-collapse" of smaller air sacs in the lungs, and coughing is a natural response to re-inflate them, Wyman said.

Wyman said the cough occurs more frequently in F-22 pilots than in the earlier F-15s or F-16s. M
any F-22 pilots used to fly those older jets, so they have some basis for comparison. The cough may relate to the expanded capabilities of the Raptor.

"The flight envelope of the F-22 is significantly different than the other fighters," he said, "and this may contribute to this cough, but we are continuing to evaluate it with our pilots."

Lingering symptoms

The problems of the Raptor made national headlines earlier this month when two Virginia Air National Guard pilots went on "60 Minutes" and said they were uncomfortable flying the aircraft.
Capt. Josh Wilson mentioned that he not only experienced a hypoxia scare in the cockpit, but later underwent therapy in a hyperbaric chamber as his problems persisted.

Hyperbaric therapy, Wyman said, is the delivery of 100 percent oxygen under pressure, used to treat hypoxia, carbon monoxide poisoning, decompression sickness and even helping wounds that are slow to heal.

In most cases, the hypoxia symptoms in Raptor cockpits have gone way when the pilot activated the emergency oxygen system in the cockpit, Wyman said.
Sometimes the pilots land and immediately breathe pure oxygen to resolve them.

"In a very few cases," the symptoms last until the next morning, Wyman said. In two cases, hyperbaric treatments were used and the symptoms were cleared up, he said.

The bottom line: Investigators don't have a definitive explanation for these symptoms, nor have they found convincing evidence linking these symptoms to the extended presence of toxins.

OBOGS

So far, a good deal of attention has focused on the Raptor's on-board oxygen generation system, or OBOGS. The system takes air from the engine and runs it through a high-tech sieve, so the pilot breathes a higher concentration of oxygen.

Winslow Wheeler directs the Center for Defense Information, now part of the Project on Government Oversight.

He notes that some airmen who work to maintain the F-22 have also experienced hypoxia incidents.
They weren't breathing air in the cockpit, and that seems to point away from the OBOGS system.

"It's very possible there is some sort of toxin or contamination problem," he said.

"The fact that the ground crew have had some events and pilots have reported vertigo or dizziness well after the flight – it's evidence that this is just not an oxygen-deprivation problem."
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http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/06/14 ... oblem.html
F-22's oxygen-deprivation problem worse than previously reported
Posted Friday, Jun. 15, 2012

The Associated Press

RICHMOND, Va. -- Two members of Congress said Thursday that new information provided by the Air Force shows that an oxygen-deficit problem on F-22 fighter jets is worse than previously disclosed.

Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., and Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., said the Air Force reported about 26 incidents of apparent oxygen deprivation per 100,000 flight hours through May 31.

That's a rate at least 10 times higher than that involving any other Air Force aircraft, they said.

Warner and Kinzinger said that as recently as this week, the Air Force maintained that the rate of F-22 oxygen-related problems was "relatively low."

Warner and Kinzinger said the new information came from the Air Force in response to questions they submitted last month after a CBS 60 Minutes report featured two F-22 pilots from the Virginia Air National Guard
who said that they and other pilots had experienced oxygen deprivation, disorientation and other problems during some flights.

The lawmakers said they are concerned that disciplinary measures are still pending against one of the pilots for going public.

"They should not be penalized for expressing those kinds of concerns," Kinzinger said. He said 10 others have since come forward to talk about the hypoxialike symptoms they experienced aboard the F-22.

Warner and Kinzinger also said that in response to one of their questions, the Air Force said an early 2011 survey found that a majority of F-22 pilots did not feel confident with the aircraft's oxygen system.

The Air Force ordered installation of new charcoal filters before returning the F-22 to full operations in September 2011,
but that seemed to make matters worse -- an outcome verified in testing by the Boeing Co., which recommended discontinuing their use.
The Air Force complied.

Now, attention is directed to an upper pressure vest -- part of the survival gear worn by F-22 pilots.

Navy tests have shown a high failure rate for the vests, Warner said. But he said it's too early to pin the blame entirely on that equipment.

Kinzinger and Warner said they will continue pressing the Air Force to correct the problem.

The lawmakers stopped short of saying the F-22 fleet should be temporarily grounded again and praised Panetta for last month's directive,
which said F-22 flights must remain "within proximity of potential landing locations" so pilots can land quickly if they experience an oxygen-deficit problem.
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