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LOG: Hatzerim museum

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Only a couple of visitors were checking out the exhibits, which allowed me to inspect the revetments and part of the other surrounding storage area's without any problems. The serials in brackets however were not noted as some of the aircraft were simply worn out by the blazing sun over the past years. They were assumed from recent reliable reports, though not much has changed over the years. Only revetment 5 contained some new A-4's. Other new arrivals where the Czech Mi-24 and an unknown MiG-21UM marked "339".

26-2-2012 Hatzerim museum

Entrance
40 Meteor F.8 ex IDF/AF
529 Kfir C.1P ex 144sqn
008/4X-BYD EC.707COMINT ex 120sqn

Main ramp (outer lines)
1x SE.3130 nm
630 Tzukit ex FTS
677 Tzukit ex FTS
212 H.500MD/TOW ex FTS
018 PA.18-150 ex FTS
156 F-4E ex 69sqn
297 F-4E-2000 ex FTC/601sqn
944 E-2C ex 192sqn
"339" MiG-21UM nm, bare metal, ex Madagascar Air Force, real ID?
674 Tzukit ex FTS
3401 PBY-5A nm
"444" AH-1S ex 160sqn, really 021
040 AB.206B ex 123sqn
020 SA.321K ex 114sqn
010 SA.321K ex 114sqn
471 CH-53A ex 114sqn
07 CH-34A ex 124sqn
203/4X-FBO IAI.202 ex 122sqn
045/4X-FAE N.2501 ex IDF/AF
"039"/4X-FPN KC-97G ex 120sqn, really 035
038/4X-FNZ C-47B ex IDF/AF
002 AB.205A ex 123sqn
026 AB.212 ex 124sqn
204 H.500MD/TOW ex FTS
115 AH-1G ex 160sqn
B02 Lavi B ex IAI
"907" SA.342L ex Syrian AF, really 1333
2786 MiG-23ML ex Syrian AF
"007" MiG-21F ex Iraqi AF(?), real 007 in USA?
1033 MiG-17F ex Syrian AF
309 MiG-15UTI nm, ex Polish AF
(J-747) Hunter FGA.71 ex Chilean AF
"303" Venom FB.5 ex Swiss AF J-1516
"L158" Vampire FB.5 ex Lebanese AF?
1x Vampire T.55 nm

UAV line-up
003 Impact nm
027 AQM-34M ex 200sqn
123 Scout nm
125 BQM-34A nm
158 BQM-34A nm
160 BQM-34A nm
234 Scout nm
703 Searcher nm

Main ramp (centre)
"212" CM.170 ex AeroTeam, really 184
06 Meteor F.8 ex IDF/AF
15 Meteor T.7 ex 101sqn
18 Meteor T.7 ex IDF/AF
157 Meteor NF.13 ex 110sqn
09 SO.4050-IIA nm
33 SO.4050-IIBR ex 110sqn
70 SO.4050-IIN ex 110sqn
49 MD.450 ex 119sqn
80 MD.450 ex 107sqn
310 Kfir TC.2 ex FTC/601sqn
09 Mystere 4A ex 109sqn
60 Mystere 4A ex IDF/AF
096 S. Mystere 4A ex IDF/AF
"272" A-4H ex FTS, really 270
611 A-4F ex 141sqn
999764/03 Kfir C1P/F-21A ex VMFT-401
451/01 Kfir C2R ex 144sqn
712 Kfir C1 ex 113sqn
874 Kfir C2 ex 101sqn
501 IAI Nesher ex 113sqn
158 Mirage 3CJ ex 101sqn
"159" Mirage 3CJ ex 119sqn, as Argentine AF, really 111
988 Mirage 3BJ ex IAI
323 F-4E ex 107sqn
485 RF-4E ex 107sqn
498 F-4E(S) ex 119sqn
614 F-4E-2000 ex 201sqn
"229" F-4E-2000 ex IDF/AF, really 334
"695" F-15A ex 133sqn, really 398

Platform near control tower
334 TB.20 ex 135sqn
059 U-206D ex 135dqn
027 Do.27Q 1 ex 100sqn
005 Do.28B1 ex 100sqn
109 Beech B.65B-80 ex 135sqn
004 BN-2A2 ex 135sqn
"02" PC-6A/H2 ex IDF/AF, really 06

Restauration sheds
21 Meteor T.7 1/2 ex 110sqn
030 PA.18-150 ex FTS

Around/behind sheds (stored)
009 SA.321Ka ex 114sqn
018 SA.321K ex 114sqn
21 SA.321K ex 114sqn
51 Meteor NF.13 ex IDF/AF
4010 Mi-24D ex Czech AF

Storage lines
106 Beech B.65B-80 ex 135sqn
10? Mystere 4A ex IDF/AF
11 Mystere 4A ex 116sqn
"92" Mystere 4A ex IDF/AF, really 15
"007" Mystere 4A ex IDF/AF, really 71?
29 Ouragan ex IDF/AF, real ID?
69 Ouragan ex IDF/AF
108 Ouragan ex 113sqn
001 BN-2A ex 135sqn
002 SA.321K ex 114sqn
015 SA.321K ex 114sqn
010/4X-JYG B.707-120B ex 120sqn
"103"/4X-JYW B.707-328 ex 120sqn, really 116
042/4X-FMJ C-47B ex 122sqn
043/4X-FAC N.2501D ex IDF/AF
055/4X-FAG N.2501D ex IDF/AF
1x Do.27 bare metal
4x T-6A ex IDF/AF
+more, no ID

Revetment 1
108 F-4E ex 119 sqn
111 F-4E ex 119 sqn
122 F-4E ex 107 sqn
124 F-4E ex 119 sqn
(134) F-4E ex 69 sqn
141 F-4E ex 119 sqn
148 F-4E ex 107 sqn
159 F-4E ex 119 sqn
170 F-4E ex 107 sqn
189 F-4E ex 69 sqn
208 F-4E ex 107 sqn
(225) F-4E ex 107 sqn
(228) F-4E nm
295 F-4E ex FTC/601 sqn
(317) F-4E ex 107 sqn
321 F-4E ex 107 sqn
327 F-4E ex 69 sqn
333 F-4E ex 69 sqn

Revetment 2
171 F-4E ex 119 sqn
419 Kfir C1R ex 149 sqn
514 Kfir C7 ex 144 sqn
999725/11 Kfir C1P/F-21A ex VMFT-401
826 Kfir C2 ex 149 sqn
853 Kfir C2 ex 149 sqn
886 Kfir C2 ex 149 sqn
895 Kfir C7 ex 149 sqn

Revetment 3
222 A-4H ex 102 sqn
230 A-4H ex 102 sqn
359 A-4N ex 102 sqn
379 A-4N ex 116 sqn
393 A-4N ex 115 sqn
407 A-4N ex 102 sqn
891 A-4E nm

Revetment 4
127 F-4E ex 69 sqn
187 F-4E ex 119 sqn
210 F-4E ex 107 sqn
(223) F-4E ex 107 sqn
(261) F-4E ex 107 sqn
266 F-4E ex 107 sqn
322 F-4E ex 69 sqn
488 RF-4E ex 107 sqn
603 Tsukit ex FTS
607 Tsukit ex FTS
623 Tsukit ex FTS
629 Tsukit ex FTS
639 Tsukit ex FTS
673 Tsukit ex FTS
203 H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
206 H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
209 H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
215 H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
(217) H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
(218) H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
221 H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
222 H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
225 H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
242 H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
(254) H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn
(282) H.500MD/TOW nm, ex 190 sqn

Revetment 5
307 A-4N ex 102 sqn
311 A-4N ex 102 sqn
314 A-4N ex 102 sqn
316 A-4N ex FTS, tail only
337 A-4N ex 102 sqn
364 A-4N ex 116 sqn
365 A-4N ex 102 sqn
367 A-4N ex 116 sqn
368 A-4N ex 102 sqn
371 A-4N ex 116 sqn
377 A-4N ex 102 sqn
385 A-4N ex 102 sqn
397 A-4N ex 102 sqn, tail only
542 TA-4H ex 102 sqn
547 TA-4H ex 102 sqn
1x A-4 tail only, c/n 019?
1x A-4 tail only

If anyone has some corrections or additions, feel free to add.
Last edited by Sjoerd on 06 May 2012, 19:56, edited 6 times in total.
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MiG-21UM 339 is ex Armee de l´Air Malgache/ Madagascar Air Force
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../03 Kfir C1P/F-21A ex VMFT-401

Hi Sjoerd,

999764 /03 ex 764 should be your Kfir....

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Some corrections:
088/4X-JYD B.707-1B1F ex 120sqn > must be 008
010/4X-JYW B.707-120B ex 120sqn > must be 4X-JYG
"103" B.707-328 ex 120sqn, really 106 > ex 116 not 106
159 Mirage 3CJ ex 119sqn, as Argentine AF > real 111

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Thanks guys for the addition/corrections!

MiG-21 ex Madagascan AF. Wow...never knew they had any, let alone me seeing one! Too bad it's not in his original markings. Is the serial correct?

**EDIT**,
I already found out that 339 is the sole MiG-21UM which is known being operated with that AF. Also the rubbed off text on the nose complies with the placing and length of "TAFIKA ANABAKABAKA", which is written on the nose of the former Madagascar MiG-21's.

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_196.shtml

As for B.707 088, this was was a typo. Many thanks for the other corrections.
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I can confirm after checking my photos that 4X-JYW is "103"/116.

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Sjoerd wrote:Only a couple of visitors were checking out the exhibits, which allowed me to inspect the revetments and part of the other surrounding storage area's without any problems. The serials in brackets however were not noted as some of the aircraft were simply worn out by the blazing sun over the past years. They were assumed from recent reliable reports, though not much has changed over the years. Only revetment 5 contained some new A-4's. Other new arrivals where the Czech Mi-24 and an unknown MiG-21UM marked "339".

26-2-2012 Hatzerim museum

165 F-4E ex 69sqn

If anyone has some corrections or additions, feel free to add.
Sjoerd i think this is 156 instead of 165.

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Hi Sjoerd,
Excellent report, not much to add;

Hiller 360 3301 Floor pan only
Behind H-500 204 are two Pa-18's...anyone for the id's?
RF-4E 485 is now in a restauration shed

Also a lot of wrecks around;
Su-7 Eqypt AF, tail section only, shot down 11.10.73 near Abu Smara in Sinai
Su-7 Eqypt AF, tail section only, shot down 06.10.73 near Um Hashiba
Mig-19 Egypt AF, tail section only, shot down during six day war
Mig-17 Syria AF, parts only, shot down 15-8-1966 near Sea of Galilee
Auster AOP 3/5, forward fuselage
Bristol Beaufighter TT-10 171, parts only written off 20-10-1948 near Ashdod, after an attack on Iraq
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hallo Arjan,

the 2 pa18-150 are 030 en 114

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Nilson wrote: Sjoerd i think this is 156 instead of 165.

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Correct, another typo. Thanks!
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some add.

main ramp

(19) sa318c near tzukits
1114 14 at6d
41 p51d
38 p51d ex. 188
2078 78 spitfire lf9e
112 d avia s-199
(91741) ? tbm 3u avenger usn
099 pa18-150
03 se3130
03 uh19d-4 ex.41
2028-26 spitfire lf9e
"2011"
4x-coa iai 1121 mig nose
VQ-PAH auster j/1
"61 b" rc-3 seabee civ c/n 1018

hangar near main ramp

1125 25 t6g
VQ-PAR "002" dh89a ex. 4x-970
13 a auster j/1
068 pa18-150
3137 "05" s11-2
2752 52 pt17
VQ-PAU dh82a

26/27 static

205 f15i 69sqn
886 f16i 107sqn
243 f16a 140sqn
729 uh60a 123sqn
924 ah64a 190sqn

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In late April the first revetment had 18 F-4s in it.

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From the left, working clockwise around the revetment there are 15 aircraft, (all from photos)

295 (FTC markings - red stripes on tail)
108 (nm)
225 (107 Sqn)
141 (119 Sqn)
170 (107)
124 (119)
148 (107)
208 (107)
111 (119)
134 (69 Sqn)
159 (119)
333 (69)
327 (69)
317 (107)
122 (107)

There are three more in the middle, to the left side when viewed from the museum:

189 (69 special)
321 (69/107)
? (69 Sqn badge on tail) It's the one tail-on in the shot, closest to the entrance to the revetment.

Does anyone know the ID of this aircraft?

In the fourth revetment there nine F-4s, working around clockwise they were;

261 (107),
322 (69),
223 (107),
328 (107),
266 (107),
488 (107),
210 (107),
127 (69),
187 (119).
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