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Re: EHAM 22-09-2013 MIL

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Did the pilot maybe tel on which base the 430 ECS is based in The United States ?.

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Re: EHAM 22-09-2013 MIL

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Bram wrote:Did the pilot maybe tel on which base the 430 ECS is based in The United States ?.

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I believe they are based at Hanscom AFB, Ma.
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Re: EHAM 22-09-2013 MIL: Velcro spin-off

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I thought that Hanscom AFB was a so called non flying base? For as fas as the 430 EECS concerned their official homebase is Kandahar.
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Re: EHAM 22-09-2013 MIL: Velcro spin-off

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Related news:

17 Sep 2013

Northrop Grumman and Bombardier are set to deliver the last of four Battlefield Airborne Communications Node (BACN) aircraft to the US Air Force.

"There is going to be an official delivery ceremony in the coming weeks,"
says Ben Boehm, Bombardier's vice-president for sales and marketing. "It's up to the air force when they want to have the ceremony. The airplane is actually ready to go."

The BACN, which will be used to facilitate communications between disparate US airborne assets, has been in development by Northrop since 2005. The idea was to use the communications node to translate data transmitted from stealthy fifth-generation fighters such as the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor and F-35 Joint Strike Fighter into a format usable by fourth-generation aircraft such as the Boeing F-15 Eagle and vice versa.

Originally, BACN was tested on board a NASA-operated Martin WB-57 Canberra bomber. However, a later prototype was installed on a Bombardier BD-700 business jet in 2011, which was ultimately designated as the E-11A.

After the success of the original E-11A prototype, which is being retained by the USAF, the service ordered three additional production aircraft based on the Bombardier Global Express 6000. It is the last of those three aircraft that is set to be delivered, Boehm says.

Boehm says that the USAF might order five more BACN II aircraft that would be somewhat modified from the current jets. Sensors, he says, are constantly evolving.

Bombardier says that further opportunities in the US market might arise from a programme to replace the USAF's ageing fleet of Northrop E-8C Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System aircraft. Service leaders, however, have said previously that while a business jet-derived replacement is desirable, the USAF does not have the money to purchase such an aircraft.

Bombardier also hopes to leverage its new CSeries airframe for the military market, Boehm says. Two potential customers have already expressed interest in an airborne early warning platform based on the new aircraft.
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Re: EHAM 22-09-2013 MIL: Velcro spin-off

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Piet Luijken wrote:Related news:

17 Sep 2013

Northrop Grumman and Bombardier are set to deliver the last of four Battlefield Airborne Communications Node (BACN) aircraft to the US Air Force.

"There is going to be an official delivery ceremony in the coming weeks,"
says Ben Boehm, Bombardier's vice-president for sales and marketing. "It's up to the air force when they want to have the ceremony. The airplane is actually ready to go."

The BACN, which will be used to facilitate communications between disparate US airborne assets, has been in development by Northrop since 2005. The idea was to use the communications node to translate data transmitted from stealthy fifth-generation fighters such as the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor and F-35 Joint Strike Fighter into a format usable by fourth-generation aircraft such as the Boeing F-15 Eagle and vice versa.

Originally, BACN was tested on board a NASA-operated Martin WB-57 Canberra bomber. However, a later prototype was installed on a Bombardier BD-700 business jet in 2011, which was ultimately designated as the E-11A.

After the success of the original E-11A prototype, which is being retained by the USAF, the service ordered three additional production aircraft based on the Bombardier Global Express 6000. It is the last of those three aircraft that is set to be delivered, Boehm says.

Boehm says that the USAF might order five more BACN II aircraft that would be somewhat modified from the current jets. Sensors, he says, are constantly evolving.

Bombardier says that further opportunities in the US market might arise from a programme to replace the USAF's ageing fleet of Northrop E-8C Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System aircraft. Service leaders, however, have said previously that while a business jet-derived replacement is desirable, the USAF does not have the money to purchase such an aircraft.

Bombardier also hopes to leverage its new CSeries airframe for the military market, Boehm says. Two potential customers have already expressed interest in an airborne early warning platform based on the new aircraft.
Serials 11-9001, 11-9355, 11-9358, 12-9506. 3 Have visited Schiphol sofar! 8)
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Re: EHAM 22-09-2013 MIL: Velcro spin-off

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Bennie wrote:
Serials 11-9001, 11-9355, 11-9358, 12-9506. 2 Have visited Schiphol sofar! 8)
3 have visited. 11-9001, 11-9355 and 12-9506
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Re: EHAM 22-09-2013 MIL: Velcro spin-off

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ErwinS wrote:
Bennie wrote:
Serials 11-9001, 11-9355, 11-9358, 12-9506. 2 Have visited Schiphol sofar! 8)
3 have visited. 11-9001, 11-9355 and 12-9506
I Remember I must have missed one... post adjusted! :oops:
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Re: EHAM 22-09-2013 MIL: Velcro spin-off

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Hi Bennie,

Thanks for your help much appreciated

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Re: EHAM 22-09-2013 MIL: Velcro spin-off

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Bennie wrote:
ErwinS wrote:
Bennie wrote:
Serials 11-9001, 11-9355, 11-9358, 12-9506. 2 Have visited Schiphol sofar! 8)
3 have visited. 11-9001, 11-9355 and 12-9506
I Remember I must have missed one... post adjusted! :oops:
all 4 have visited Schiphol now.
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Re: EHAM 22-09-2013 MIL: Velcro spin-off

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Combining the question 'where the E-11 are based' in this topic and the question 'sticker', topic Schiphol 19.1 (http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=102549)
it looks to me the serial of the E-11 is on a sticker (...) according to the FAA register registration N760AG is still valid for this a/c so I assume this is under the sticker?
Yes, that is correct, this aircraft is 'leased'. The Air Force 'leases' two E-11As and owns two. N760AG (11-9358) and N770AG (11-9355) are leased from Northrop Grumman (Northrop Grumman Defense Mission Systems), as were the first two but those were later bought by the air force.

Northrop Grumman is responcible for maintenance and upgrades. All contracts are managed by the staffs at Hanscom AFB, but the E-11A fleet is based at Kandahar. Last year the contract was prolonged till febr. 2018 (previous contract ran untill summer 2014). Whether the Karzai government will run that long is another question.

Part of the current contract is upgrading all E-11s, with one to be upgraded in the US, others in Afghanistan (likely 11-9358 will undergo the upgrade program in the US).

Why not buy them all four? This has eveything to do with funds (Google it if you're interested - the E-11 is also named as replacement for the E-8 but there's simply no funds). Also part of this contract are a bunch of EQ-4Bs. For now, no other E-11s are ordered.
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