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LOG Luftwaffenmuseum der Bundeswehr Berlin Gatow

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Here's my LOG of my visit to the German Air Force museum at Berlin Gatow on April 17, 2014.

Open Area:
93+42 Mil Mi-9 Luftwaffe (ex NVA LSK/LV 411)
EB-344 Republic RF-84F Thunderflash Luftwaffe
35+62 McDonnell Douglas RF-4E Phantom II Luftwaffe
798 Sukhoi SU-22M-4 NVA LSK/LV
20+51 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23BN Luftwaffe (ex NVA LSK/LV 710)
613 Sukhoi SU-22M-4 NVA LSK/LV
XV278 Hawker Siddeley P.1127 Harrier Gr.1 Royal Air Force
96+43 Mil Mi-24P Luftwaffe (ex NVA LSK/LV 387)
32+72 Fiat G-91R/3 Luftwaffe
5211 Mil Mi-24D NVA LSK/LV
XG152/20 Hawker Hunter F Mk.6A Royal Air Force
615 PZL Lim-5P NVA LSK/LV
3905 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15bis 3905 Československé vojenské letectvo
905 PZL Lim-5 905 NVA LSK/LV (this one is now in storage - I've seen it towed away)
D-9542 Canadair CL-13B Sabre Mk.6 Luftwaffe
JD-249 North American F-86K Sabre Luftwaffe
72/10-SA Dassault Super Mystère B2 Armée de l'Air
645 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21F-13 NVA LSK/LV
26+49 Lockheed F-104G Starfighter Luftwaffe
20+13 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23ML Luftwaffe (ex NVA LSK/LV 333)
587/13-QL Dassault Mirage IIIE Armée de l'Air
XN730/J BAC Lightning F Mk.2A Royal Air Force
338 Aero L-29 Delfin NVA LSK/LV
256 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21UM NVA LSK/LV
9456 Lockheed T-33A Shooting Star Luftwaffe (marked as 9455)
99+40 Fiat G-91T/3 Luftwaffe
27+90 Lockheed TF-104G Starfighter Luftwaffe
99+12 Fiat G-91R/3 Luftwaffe
99+35 EE Canberra B2 Luftwaffe
99+33 North American Rockwell OV-10B Bronco Luftwaffe
170 Aero L-39ZO Albatros NVA LSK/LV
UA+110 Fairey Gannet AS Mk.4 Marineflieger (marked as UA+106)
WV865 Hawker Sea Hawk FGA Mk.6 Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm
61+17 Breguet Br 1150 Atlantic Marineflieger
ZD215 Douglas Dakota IV Royal Australian Air Force (marked as A65-69 - is this the real id for the RAAF?)
DB+127 Lockheed F-104G Starfighter Luftwaffe
93+51 Mil Mi-8S Luftwaffe (ex NVA LSK/LV 914)
927 Mil Mi-8T NVA LSK/LV
98+20 Bölkow Bo 105C Luftwaffe
569 Mil Mi-4A NVA LSK/LV (marked as 565)
D-HATE Bell UH-1D Iroquois Bundesgrenzschutz
52+09 Antonov An-26SM Luftwaffe (ex NVA LSK/LV 369)
AS-558 Percival Pembroke C.54 Luftwaffe
99+14 Nord Noratlas N.2501D Luftwaffe
50+56 Transall C 160 50+56 Luftwaffe

Hangar 3:
no markings Siemens-Schuckert D.III Deutsche Luftstreitkräfte replica
E.3349 Avro 504K Royal Flying Corps replica
7775/18 Fokker D.VIII Deutsche Luftstreitkräfte replica
D-1979 Grunau Baby IIb Luftwaffe-Deutsches Dritte Reich (marked as WL+VII-21)
152/17 Fokker Dr.I Deutsche Luftstreitkräfte replica
603/15 Fokker E.III Deutsche Luftstreitkräfte replica
D-4037 Schulgleiter SG 38 "Dornburg"
950 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21PFM NVA LSK/LV (partially cut open)
no markings Rumpler Taube replica
no markings Farman replica
8308 Vertol H-21C Shawnee Heeresflieger
225 Yakovlev Yak-11 NVA LSK/LV
SC+117 Saunders Roe AOP12 Skeeter Luftwaffe (carries no markings)
163 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15UTI NVA LSK/LV
191904 Messerschmitt Me 163B-1a Luftwaffe-Deutsche Dritte Reich
20+37 Lockheed F-104G Starfighter Luftwaffe
AS+525 Piper L-18C Super Cub Luftwaffe
BB-250 Canadair Sabre Mk.5 Luftwaffe (marked as BB-150)
10575 Hispano Aviación HA-1109 HA-1112 Ejército del Aire (marked as Yellow 4 Messerschmitt Bf 109G Luftwaffe-Deutsches Dritte Reich)
KA+1-52 DFS-23 Luftwaffe-Deutsches Dritte Reich replica
no markings Junkers D.I Deutsche Luftstreitkräfte replica

Hangar 7:
AA+615 CCF Harvard Mk.4A Luftwaffe
DF-316 Republic F-84F Thunderstreak Luftwaffe
78+04 Bristol Sycamore HR.52 Luftwaffe
29+06 Lockheed F-104F Starfighter Luftwaffe
38+34 McDonnell Douglas F-4F Phantom II Luftwaffe
AA+014 Heinkel Fouga CM-170 Magister R Luftwaffe
80+34 Sikorsky H-34G Choctaw Luftwaffe
44+68 Panavia Tornado IDS Luftwaffe
41+50 Dassault-Breguet-Dornier Alpha Jet A Luftwaffe
29+03 Mikoyan MiG-29G Luftwaffe (ex NVA LSK/LV 615)
86+32 Bölkow Bo 105M Luftwaffe
71+42 Bell UH-1D Iroquois Luftwaffe
44+50 Panavia Tornado IDS Luftwaffe - Cockpit only
65-10824 Cessna T-37B Tweet US Air Force
38+04 McDonnell Douglas F-4F Phantom II Luftwaffe - Tail (US markings) and cockpit only
28+01 Lockheed TF-104G Starfighter Luftwaffe - cockpit only and marked as U.S.AF

Open Storage (behind the fence - closed for public)
577 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23MF NVA LSK/LV
596 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21M NVA LSK/LV

I think you can see on the following picture these aircraft
98+04 as D-9591 Panavia Tornado prototype
20+36 as 105 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23UB NVA LSK/LV
990 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21bis NVA LSK/LV
25+52 as 112 Sukhoi Su-22UM-3K NVA LSK/LV
472 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21SPS-K NVA LSK/LV
93+01 Mil Mi-8T Luftwaffe (ex NVA LSK/LV 398)
BR+239 G-91/R4 Luftwaffe (as 35+41)
20+02 as 557 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23MF NVA LSK/LV
01+01 Canadiar Cl-13B Mk.5 Luftwaffe
596 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21MF NVA LSK/LV

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Who can confirm and what are the other ones?

And according to me, the plane on the next picture is
391 Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-19PM
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Corrections/confirmations are always nice to have ;-)
Last edited by gdebiscop on 07 Jul 2015, 13:42, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: LOG Luftwaffenmuseum der Bundeswehr Berlin Gatow

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The aircraft on the first picture from left to right: Tornado, MiG-23UB, Su-22UM-3K, Fiat G-91R, CL-13B Sabre, Mi-8 and another Su-22 or Su-20.
The tail and the nose on the last photo looks more like a MiG-19P to me instead of a Lim-5.

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Re: LOG Luftwaffenmuseum der Bundeswehr Berlin Gatow

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Yep You're right it's a MiG-19PM coded 335.

Again another one for the log.
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Re: LOG Luftwaffenmuseum der Bundeswehr Berlin Gatow

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Only seeing this topic now, some Corrections (my LOG is from may14):
- The MiG-19 is 391, not 335, photo evidence avialable which clearly shows final two as 91
- Bo105 inside hangar is not 98+27, but 86+32
Row outside is:
BR+239 as 35+41 storage area G-91R/4
93+01 as 398, storage area Mi-8T
596 storage area MiG-21MF
20+02 as 557, storage area MiG-23MF
20+63 ex 105, storage area MiG-23UB
01+01 storage area CL-13B Mk6
98+04 as D-9591 storage area Tornado MRCA
98+61 storage area Su-20
25+52 ex 112, storage area Su22UM-3K
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Re: LOG Luftwaffenmuseum der Bundeswehr Berlin Gatow

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Changed the log based on the remarks
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