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Strange:"Brazil may sell Argentina 24 Saab JAS 39 NG's"...

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...yes, this is apparently an official sort of Memorandum of Understanding... :?

http://www.aereo.jor.br/2015/04/08/mds- ... gripen-ng/
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https://translate.google.com/translate? ... edit-text=

Now, what about those British-supplied electronics/avionics? :roll:

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http://www.defesa.gov.br/noticias/15412 ... -argentina
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Stratofreighter wrote:Now, what about those British-supplied electronics/avionics? :roll:
I don't think that is a real issue. There is no embargo against Argentina: https://www.gov.uk/current-arms-embargo ... strictions
Argentina is subject to 'transit control', but as far as I know that does not necessarily mean no weapon systems can be supplied (but please correct me if I understand this incorrectly).

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Edit: may have been too fast. Since 2012 there seems to be a new policy basically denying any licenses for military goods exports to Argentina: Written Ministerial Statement
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Re: Strange:"Brazil may sell Argentina 24 Saab JAS 39 NG's".

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There is NO problem to sell the Gripen NG built in Brazil to Argentina, despite what anybody say. Brazil has signed a deal to fully produce the Gripen and also produce any Gripen when NG will be sold to other Latin American customer. So... no big issue here.

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You do realize there's a US built engine in there?
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According to the link that Erwin provided there's a UK embargo in place, instead of something which is approved by the UN or US. So, technically there's no problem if there are no British components in the Gripen NG.

Nevertheless, I can imagine there will be a lot of pressure from the British government aimed at any country which tries to sell modern arms to Argentina.
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The British will never ever let that happen, some 28% of Grippens components comes from the UK. But that's hard to understand for "some" people.
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Yeah... right you are I.B.

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http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... an-411287/

UK may not oppose Gripen sale to Argentina: Brazilian minister


The UK government is unlikely to block any request by Argentina to buy Saab Gripen NG fighters, Brazilian defence minister Jacques Wagner told reporters on 15 April.

The statement at the Latin American Aviation and Defence exhibition comes nearly six months after Argentinian defence minister Agustin Rossi expressed interest in Brazilian-assembled Gripen NGs, despite a need to import key technologies such as the ejection seat and the radar from a historic rival in the UK.

So far, there has still been no official request by Argentina to import British technologies for either Gripen NGs or Embraer KC-390s, Lt Gen José Crepaldi, head of Brazilian air force acquisition programmes.

Argentina is one of the three international industrial partners in Embraer’s KC-390 tactical transport. Several KC-390 systems are supplied by British or British-controlled firms, such as BAE Systems flight control computers and active side stick controllers, Ultra Electronics electronic controls and sensors as well as Cobham’s fuel tanks, inflight refueling equipment and composite material nose radomes.

Wagner mentioned that to overcome any “obstacles” Embraer might have to substitute these blocked components by other international suppliers. Wagner did not elaborate on whether Brazil or Argentina would be required to pay for such redesign and recertification of the KC-390 or the Gripen NG.

According to Wagner, the full resolution of restrictive export policies will only be possible once the UK accepts to “discuss the issue of the Falklands Islands sovereignty with Argentina through UN-mediated talks".
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