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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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I see a Discovery Skyhawk in the area. It either seems to be working the Nordhorn range but it might as well be in a holding pattern waiting for the microlight to clear the Meppen area
SKYHAWK 1 is working Nordhorn range
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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Hello Niek,

thanks for the interesting information, I am not very familiar with either of them.

The Skyhawk is still working the Nordhorn range then.


Edit 15.20: now heading back to Wittmund

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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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Meppen Range 05-10-2015 08:30u-16:15u LT:

08:30-09:30 - OUTLAW 01 - A-109 / H-22 - Belgium
09:30-10:30 - OUTLAW 02 - NH-90 / RN-07 - Belgium
10:30-11:30 - OUTLAW 03 - C-27J / MM62219 RS-50 - Italy
11:30-12:30 - OUTLAW 04 - EF-2000 / MM7291 4-11 - Italy
13:30-15-20 - OUTLAW 05 - C-17A / ZZ-171 - United Kingdom
15:30-16:15 - OUTLAW 06 - Tornado / MM7014 50-56 - Italy

Arrivals at Meppen Heliport 16:00u-16:15u LT:

16:00 French Army 8163 (type & serial unknown; only heard on the radio).
16:15 Swedish Airforce 306 - H-60 / ?
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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Great log Edwin, i edited my overview on page 2 with all info.
ps Belgium H22 is a A109, think they would love to have the AW-139 instead :wink:
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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AK01 wrote:Great log Edwin, i edited my overview on page 2 with all info.
ps Belgium H22 is a A109, think they would love to have the AW-139 instead :wink:
Pieter,
I think it also Pieter :wink: Thanks!
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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After using google for a while no results found.
Meppen range is 1hour drive from my home,so i would be very happy to go over there to do some spotting.
The troubble is,i dont know were to go.

Uve been in the neighbourhood at the site where the m48 tanks are.
And this years open day of the bundeswehr.

Bur when i want to see the aircraft,were should i go?
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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Google Schlagbruckenerweg in Meppen and you will see an "airport" at GE.
That's the heliport.
Were to stand to spot the visiting aircraft I don't know.

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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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Argus 01 wrote:Meppen Range 05-10-2015 08:30u-16:15u LT:

08:30-09:30 - OUTLAW 01 - A-109 / H-22 - Belgium
09:30-10:30 - OUTLAW 02 - NH-90 / RN-07 - Belgium
10:30-11:30 - OUTLAW 03 - C-27J / MM62219 RS-50 - Italy
11:30-12:30 - OUTLAW 04 - EF-2000 / MM7291 4-11 - Italy
13:30-15-20 - OUTLAW 05 - C-17A / ZZ-171 - United Kingdom
15:30-16:15 - OUTLAW 06 - Tornado / MM7014 50-56 - Italy

Arrivals at Meppen Heliport 16:00u-16:15u LT:

16:00 French Army 8163 (type & serial unknown; only heard on the radio).
16:15 Swedish Airforce 306 - H-60 / ?
Nice log! Nice exercise! :-)
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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5/10 arrivals
M-502 DAF Merlin
161226 HKP16 SweAF
1308/EAM NH90-TTH
D5 + Nikkors 14/2.8 up to 400/2.8
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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Good initative to collect all the Meppen info ! Have a lot of updates and or corrections concerning Embox XV at Meppen. All are scannerlogs.

Monday 28th:
Sequence today: Outlaw01/02/03/04/05/01/02/03/07/08 (No PM Outlaw04-06)
28/9 AM Outlaw03 CN295 (Confirm CEF695 on mode-s and flew back as CEF696 on ATC)
28/9 AM Outlaw05 F-16 J-879
28/9 PM Outlaw01 CH-47D HT.17/ET-419 (2nd time airborne)
28/9 PM Outlaw02 L-159 (6053 / 6048)
28/9 PM Outlaw03 L-159 (6053 / 6048)
28/9 PM Outlaw07 EF2000 AME (don't know if they used "Dardo" c/s on ATC)
28/9 PM Outlaw08 EF2000 AME (don't know if they used "Dardo" c/s on ATC)

Tuesday 29th:
Sequence today: Outlaw01/02/03/04/05/01/06/07/09/10. (No Outlaw08)
29/9 AM Outlaw01 (heli) sounded German not Spanish.
29/9 AM Outlaw03 L-159 (6053 / 6048)
29/9 AM Outlaw04 L-159 (6053 / 6048)
29/9 PM Outlaw01 (heli) sounded German not Spanish. (2nd time airborne)
29/9 PM Outlaw06 Mir 2000D (622/30-IL)
29/9 PM Outlaw07 Mir 2000D (627/30-JO)
29/9 PM Outlaw09 EF2000 AME
29/9 PM Outlaw10 EF2000 AME
Remark: CTM2028 C160R didn't visit the range the 29th.

Wednesday 30th:
Sequence today: Outlaw01/02/03/04/05/06/07/01/09/10. (No Outlaw08)
30/9 AM Outlaw02 C-160FR (correction, it was not Outlaw03)
30/9 AM Outlaw03 Helo (suspect Norwegian Bell412)

Thursday 1st:
Sequence today: Outlaw01/02/03/04/05/06/07/08/01.
1/10 AM Outlaw01 Bell412
1/10 AM Outlaw02 C-160FR (210)
1/10 AM Outlaw03 EF2000 AME
1/10 AM Outlaw04 EF2000 AME
1/10 PM Outlaw06 C-130 (B-536) (DAF7480)
1/10 PM Outlaw07 Mir2000D (622/30-IL)
1/10 PM Outlaw08 Mir2000D (627/30-JO)
1/10 PM Outlaw01 Bell412 (163)

Friday 2nd:
Sequence today: Outlaw01/03/01. (No Outlaw02)
2/10 AM Outlaw01 Bell412 (141)
2/10 AM Outlaw03 C-160D (210)
2/10 AM Outlaw01 Bell412 (141)
Remarks: The 2 Norwegian Bell412's left Meppen as NOW339. The Belgian helo's arrived as BAF350 (NH-90 RN07) and BAF315 (A-109's H21 + H22).

Monday 5th:
Sequence today: Outlaw01/02/03/04/05/06.
Danish Merlin arrived as DAF3175.

Tuesday 6th:
Sequence today: Outlaw02/04/02/06/04. Bad weather. Only helo's in the air today TDY at Meppen.
6/10 AM Outlaw02 Helo (Suspect NH90 BAC / french accent)
6/10 AM Outlaw04 Helo (Unknown. Female pilot)
6/10 PM Outlaw02 Helo (Suspect NH90 BAC / french accent)
6/10 PM Outlaw06 Helo (Danish/Swedish?)
6/10 PM Outlaw04 Helo (Unknown, same female pilot again)

Hope this info helps, regards Andre
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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Dear All,

Today I've been to Meppen and I would like to give you a bit of a warning.
While standing next to the airfield, we were visited by security twice.
The first visit was from a security patrol that was sent by the main security control center. They had seen us with our cameras and got suspicious. This patrol made clear to us that it was not appreciated that we took pictures, even though we told them we did not take pictures of infrastructure. They also took our details from our passports (let's see what they will do with that).
Half an hour later we were visited by the head of security who was more strict/firm in telling us that they did not like us taking pictures over there and that it could be seen as espionage, depending on what we photographed. Obviously we explained European law and jurisdiction, which states that anything you can see from public terrain may also be photographed. In return however, he stated that the road we were standing on is only accessible for permit holders. This is correct and this is something they can use to send you away, call the police, lock you up in Guantanamo Bay :-)

Meanwhile I also contacted the press officer to see if they could give permission, but I got this response:

Grundsätzlich ist das Fotografieren militärischer Einrichtungen untersagt. Wenn Sie dennoch fotografieren, setzen Sie sich dem Verdacht aus, militärische Einrichtungen auszuspähen.
Translated this means: The photography of military installations is generally speaking forbidden. Should you still take pictures, then you make yourself suspicious to espionage of military installations.

It's very clear that they are not used to spotters at an installation where normally only cannons are fired, it all sounds like going back to the 80s.

So therefore I would like to warn you all and also ask you to be sensible: Don't loiter next to the airfield, especially not at the fence. The best is to just do a hit and run and spend the rest of your time at the range (over there they don't really seem to care). I'm not saying that they will take action, but it's better to be safe than sorry.

Regards, Niek

p.s. They have cameras at the fence, so they can see you there.
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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7 October was seen in order of appearanche:
H22 A-109 fly 8.30h
RN07 NH90 fly AM
NH90 ALAT fly AM
/50-56 Tor 50St AM
/4-11 F-2000A 904 GEA ca.11.40h
RN07 NH90 dep before 14.00h
M-502 EH.101 fly PM
161226/01 Hkp16A fly PM
CSX62219/RS-50 C-27J fly PM

8 October:
H21 and H22 dep Meppen (seen overhead Almelo 10.15h dir SW)

Credits: Niek, Ronny, Robert, Fred, Jeroen
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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From MIL spotters..
'Outlaw05' C-17A ZZ171 RAF, United Kingdom
5-10-2015, 's middags
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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mirage 69 wrote:From MIL spotters..
'Outlaw05' C-17A ZZ171 RAF, United Kingdom
5-10-2015, 's middags
Was already mentioned in my log from the 5th :wink:
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Re: Meppen Range 2015

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Something known about heli's that will remain this weekend?

Thanks in advance,

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