France meetings de l'air 27 May 2016 : Creil

[Richard de Florennes]

Not the greatest events ever, but as I could connect it with a "Mini Airshow" at Beauvechain, with nice weather and some job tasks in the area plus of course the RAMEX DELTA, polish MiGs and a great arrival "display" of the Rafales and some nice minor additions still worth the journey for me (can anybody help filling the gaps resulting of some aircraft allowed to land from the other side from time to time?)

CREIL FRIDAY 2016-05-27 (mainly)RW25
Weather: scattered clouds, light haze, mostly sunny, light wind, warm

Mirage 2000C EC02.005 .../115-.. L09:53
Mirage 2000C EC02.005 .../115-.. L09:55
Mirage 2000C EC02.005 123/115-KD L09:55
Mirage 2000B EC02.005 527/115-OR L10:11
Mirage 2000C EC02.005 122/115-YE L10:12
CN.235M ET01.062 158/62-IR L10:50 a0
CN.235M ET03.062 197/62-HE L11:05 a0
CN.235M ET03.062 193/62-HA L14:15 a2
EF.2000GS TaktLwGr „R“ 30+78 L10:19d
EF.2000GS TaktLwGr „R“ 30+80 L10:19d
Alpha Jet E EPA20.300 E../0 demo c/s T10:30
Alpha Jet E EPA20.300 E../9 demo c/s T10:30
Alpha Jet E EPA20.300 E146/1 demo c/s T10:55
Alpha Jet E EPA20.300 E114/2 demo c/s T10:55
Alpha Jet E EPA20.300 E../3 demo c/s T10:55
Alpha Jet E EPA20.300 E79/4 demo c/s T10:55
Alpha Jet E EPA20.300 E../7 demo c/s T10:55
Alpha Jet E EPA20.300 E139/8 demo c/s T10:55
Alpha Jet E EPA20.300 E../6 demo c/s T10:55
Alpha Jet E EPA20.300 E../5 demo c/s T11:40
TB.30 EPAA00.315 113/? demo c/s L11:10#4
TB.30 EPAA00.315 ../7 demo c/s L11:10#4
TB.30 EPAA00.315 ../3 demo c/s L11:10#4
TB.30 EPAA00.315 ../6 demo c/s L11:10#4
C-160R ET00.064 R203/64-GC T11:55
Rafale B EC02.004 321/4-HQ L11:32#3+a/d
Rafale B EC02.004 322/4-HU L11:32#3+a/d
Rafale C EC02.004 142/4-GU L11:33#3+a/d
Tigre HAP ? RHC 2045/BIM L12:12
Vampire Private ..../Du-G L12:33 +a/d
TB.30 EPAA00.315 ../315-.. L14:08*a0
TB.30 EPAA00.315 95/315-XL L14:10*a1
CM.170 Private 569/F-AZZP L14:20
MiG-29A 23.BLT 105 L14:30*
MiG-29A 23.BLT 111 L14:31*
C.295M 8.BLTr 023 L15:22
A.109BA 1 Wing (H24) spec c/s L15:14
Mirage 2000-5F GC01.002 40/2-EX L15:18+
EF-18BM Ala 12 CE.15-10/12-73 L15:28+ a1
Alpha Jet E EAC00.314 E123/705-RM L15:53+
EMB.121AA EAT00.319 107/YV white c/s L16:18
L-39ZO Private 125/G-JMPG L16:28
A.310-304 ET03.060 418/F-RADC L18:03 a1
CN.235M ET01.062 114/62-IJ T15:40
CN.235M ET01.062 158/62-IR T15:43
CN.235M ET03.062 197/62-HE T16:15
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Mirage 2000N EC02.004 353/125-AM spec c/s T12:58 L13:12 a/d
Mirage 2000N EC02.004 354/125-BJ T12:58 L13:12 a/d
Rafale C EC02.004 142/4-GU T13:48 L13:58 a/d
Tigre HAP ? RHC 2045/BIM T15:55 L16:05 a/d
A.109BA 1 Wing (H24) spec c/s T16:00 L16:13 a/d
TB.30 EPAA00.315 ../7 demo c/s T17:05 L17:32 a/d
TB.30 EPAA00.315 ../6 demo c/s T17:05 L17:32 a/d
TB.30 EPAA00.315 ../3 demo c/s T17:05 L17:32 a/d

[perrie]

Hi Richard,

Thanks for your log.
Your CN235M-200 185/62-IR is 158/62-IR

Kind regards,

Per

[57HEAVY]

one tb 30 is 95/315-xl

[Richard de Florennes]

@ Perrie and 57Heavy: Thanks for your comments, corrections and addition.
I did include all your and further information in the log and will continue to do so until the riddle has been completely solved

[David Moore]

Meeting, Creil-Senlis, Sunday 29.05.16

Static

F-RADC Airbus A310 ET 3/60
E123/705-RM Alphajet EAC 314
152/62-IP CASA 235 200 ET 1/62
197/62-HE CASA 235 300 ET 3/62
F-GUKB Grob 120A-F CATS
527/115-OR Mirage 2000B EC 2/5
40/2-EX Mirage 2000-5F GC 1/2
322/4-HU Rafale B EC 1/91
F-HKCL SR22 CATS
107/YV Xingu EAT 319
5 Falcon 50M 24F
30+78 Eurofighter TLG Richthofen
30+80 Eurofighter TLG Richthofen
023 CASA 295 8 BLTr
CE.15-10/12-73 EF-18B+ Ala12
Unmarked Bleriot XI replica
F-AZDR/160 MD312
F-AZSR/SF-06 T-6
F-AZVD Fokker Dr1 replica
F-AZZP/569 CM170
F-GABM HR200
F-GHBY/4317737 Cub
F-GMLT Be200 IGN
F-GOVB DR400
F-GYLC DR400
F-HMCI PA28
F-PBGT AIrcamper
G-JMGP/125 L39 (ex LSK 162, 26+21, Hungarian 125)
G-NINE Mongrel Spirit

Flightlines/Flying

F-RAJA Airbus A340 ET 3/60
E146/1, E114/2, E119/3, E79/4, E166/5, E45/6, E88/7, E139/8, E46/9, E162/0
AlphaJet Patrouille de France
5390/UZ AS555AN EH 5/67
5398/VF AS555AN EH 3/67
R203/64-GC C160R ET 64, spcl, 50 Ans du Transall
072/62-IF CASA 235 200 ET 1/62
193/62-HA CASA 235 300 ET 3/62
95/315-XL Epsilon EPAA
103/315-XT Epsilon EPAA
69/F-SEWL, 90/F-SEXG, 99/F-SEXP, 113/F-SEYD
Epsilon Cartouche Doré (not seen by me)
04/F-TGCI Extra 300SC in HAS
122/115-YE Mirage 2000C EC 2/5
123/115-KD Mirage 2000C EC 2/5
351/125-AQ Mirage 2000N EC 2/4
353/125-AM Mirage 2000N EC 2/4, spcl 100th Lafayette
354/125-BJ Mirage 2000N EC 2/4
321/4-HQ Rafale B EC 1/7
142/4-GU Rafale C EC 1/7
93/XL TBM700
2045/BIM Tigre HAP EFA
FM-JDD EC135 Gendarmerie
H24 A109 1 Wg, spcl
FA-123 F-16AM 10 Wg, spcl
FA-136 F-16AM 10 Wg
105 MiG29 23 BLT, spcl
111 MiG29 23 BLT, spcl
F-AZAU/115113 T-6
F-AZIK/10120 Vampire
F-AZIP/318 Stearman
F-AZKU/2105915 P-40
F-BCNL MS317
F-CMAX Pilatus B4
F-GUPY Maule
67-BKE Ikarus C42

Hangar (open)

101/VT CAP10B BCRE
Cockpits:
/33-LD Mirage F1 BCRE, sand, flight sim
/33-BC Mirage F1 BCRE, blue, ejection demo
/33-AI Mirage IIIR BCRE
(5440)/VN AS555AN behind netting
(also fin of 03 ?Mirage 2000, ?Mirage 2000 cockpit in crate. The cockpit of another Mirage was visible through the door of another hangar)
F-CHFS Pegase

Hangar
(071)/62-IE CASA 235 ET 1/62

Airfield

(156)/62-IQ CASA 235 200 ET 1/62
165/62-IT CASA 235 200 ET 1/62

Preserved

139/10-RE Super Mystère B2
59/CF Mirage IVP spcl
83 Mirage F1C

My log with additions thanks to Ronny, Hans, Jérôme & Dougie

[Rabbit]

My log of our short visit to Creil (29/5)":


Elsewhere:
59 CF Mirage IVP pres.
129 10-RE Super Mystere B2 pres. Gate
165 62-IT CN.235M-200 ET01.062
? 62-.. CN.235M ET??.062
? Mirage 2000 nn shelterarea (flightline side)

Helicopter flightline:
H24 A.109BA 1 W spec c/s
0727 JDD EC.135T2 Gendarmerie
5398 AS.555AN EH03.067
2045 BIM Tigre nn

Static:
5 Falcon 50M 24F
40 2-EX Mirage 2000-5F GC01.002
107 YV Emb.121AA EAT00.319
152 62-IP CN.235M-200 ET01.062
197 62-HE CN.235M-300 ET03.062
322 4-HU Rafale B nn
418 F-RADL A.310-304 ET03.060
527 115-OR Mirage 2000B EC02.005
? (67/BKF under wing) Croix Rouge
E123 705-RM Alpha Jet E EAC00.314
F-AZBR SF-05 T-6G USN c/s
F-AZDR (160/V) MD.312 ex-FAF
F-AZKU (42-105915) P-40N USAAF c/s
F-AZVD Fokker DR.1 private
F-AZZP (569) CM.170 ex-FAF
F-GHBY J-3C-85 USAAF c/s
F-GMLT Be200T Institut Geographique National
F-GUKB G.120A CATS
F-HKCL SR22 CATS
30+78 EF2000GS TLG "R"
30+80 EF2000GS TLG "R"
023 C.295M 8. BLTr
CE.15-10 12-73 EF-18B Ala 12
G-JMGP 125 L-39ZO private

Hangars static:
03 Mirage 2000 nn tail only
101 CAP.10B nn
? AS.555 nn

Flightline/flying:
FA123 F-16AM nn spec c/s
FA136 F-16AM nn
072 62-IF CN.235M-200 ET01.062
142 4-GU Rafale nn
193 62-HA CN.235M-300 ET03.062
321 4-HO Rafale nn
351 125-AQ Mirage 2000D EC02.004
353 125-AM Mirage 2000N EC02.004 spec c/s
354 125-BJ Mirage 2000N EC02.004
? 1/F-UHRR Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 Patrouille de France
? 2/F-TERR Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 Patrouille de France
? 3/F-UGFE Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 Patrouille de France
? 4/F-TENA Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 Patrouille de France
? 5/F-UHRW Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 Patrouille de France
? 6/F-TEFT Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 Patrouille de France
? 7/F-TULL Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 Patrouille de France
? 8/F-UGFC Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 Patrouille de France
? 9/F-UHRF Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 Patrouille de France
? 0/F-TERJ Alpha Jet E EPAA20.300 Patrouille de France
F-AZAU ('41-15113') T-6G USAAF c/s
F-AZIK ('10120/G-DU') Vampire nn
R203 64-GC C-160R ET00.064
105 MiG-29M nn
111 MiG-29M nn

Hangars flightline:
? CN.235M ET??.062
? Mirage nn nose only

Flying only:
075 F-RAJA A.340-211 ET03.060




Also seen: 3 Mirage noses in the open hangars as some simulators. Don't know if they are real (33-AI, 35-BC, 33-LD). Behind the nets also a few (7) noses of A'jets in PdF colours. Also fake, i guess.


Ciao,
J + RJ

[Starman]

Can you chaps sort out your SMB-2s please! 139 works for me OK, the simulator team were also at Istres with the 33BC & 33LD, quite realistic, possibly candidates for Mr Marden. Plus a Jaguar nose and the not at all real Alpha Jets!

[Wrecks]

Can you chaps sort out your SMB-2s please! 139 works for me OK, the simulator team were also at Istres with the 33BC & 33LD, quite realistic, possibly candidates for Mr Marden. Plus a Jaguar nose and the not at all real Alpha Jets!

Can any one confirm the type of Mirage ?
33-AI should be Mirage 3R 327
33-LD is last reported as Mirage F1C nose

[Starman]

33BC & 33LD were both F-1s. I didn't note an MIII at Istres (there was a Jag)

[GUINNESS_EHEH]

Herewith the Alpha Jet's from PDF. Read them off myself:

1 = E146
2 = E114
3 = E119
4 = E79
5 = E166
6 = E45
7 = E88
8 = E139
9 = E46
0 = E162

Best regards,

Edit; sorry, I saw they where also in David's log ...

[GUINNESS_EHEH]

The C42b from the French Red Cross is the F-JSPS