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XYZ
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by XYZ » 24 Nov 2016, 11:38
KLM reduces service to the Middle East in S17 and decides to drop Doha:
Amsterdam – Abu Dhabi
KL451 AUH1130 – 2015AUH 332 x26
KL452 AUH0200 – 070AMS 332 x37
Amsterdam – Dammam – Muscat
KL421 AUH1110 – 1825DMM1915 – 2000MCT 333 47
KL421 AUH1110 – 1825DMM1915 – 2000MCT 332 126
KL422 MCT2330 – 0015+1DMM0125+1 – 0715+1AMS 333 47
KL422 MCT2330 – 0015+1DMM0125+1 – 0715+1AMS 332 126
Amsterdam – Kuwait City – Bahrain
KL445 AMS1430 – 2115KWI2225 – 2340BAH 333 x7
KL446 BAH0050 – 0205KWI0330 – 0845AMS 333 x1
source: airlineroute.net
phkza
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by phkza » 24 Nov 2016, 13:08
XYZ wrote: KLM reduces service to the Middle East in S17 and decides to drop Doha:
Amsterdam – Abu Dhabi
KL451 AUH1130 – 2015AUH 332 x26
KL452 AUH0200 – 070AMS 332 x37
Amsterdam – Dammam – Muscat
KL421 AUH1110 – 1825DMM1915 – 2000MCT 333 47
KL421 AUH1110 – 1825DMM1915 – 2000MCT 332 126
KL422 MCT2330 – 0015+1DMM0125+1 – 0715+1AMS 333 47
KL422 MCT2330 – 0015+1DMM0125+1 – 0715+1AMS 332 126
Amsterdam – Kuwait City – Bahrain
KL445 AMS1430 – 2115KWI2225 – 2340BAH 333 x7
KL446 BAH0050 – 0205KWI0330 – 0845AMS 333 x1
source: airlineroute.net
According to KLM, Qatar Airways was too competitive on AMS-DOH. So long for fair competition...
http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/c ... -naar-doha
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by Optimus » 24 Nov 2016, 15:18
Well, you could also state that QR has a huge number of connecting passengers and that O&D for a country of only 2,6 million inhabitants does not justify a dedicated service.
By relative comparison: Albania has 2,9 million inhabitants, so maybe KLM should start flying to Tirana with smaller equipment
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XYZ
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by XYZ » 24 Nov 2016, 16:01
Optimus wrote: Albania has 2,9 million inhabitants, so maybe KLM should start flying to Tirana with smaller equipment :wink:
Kees
HV will start AMS-TIR 3x/week in 2017
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by Spotirob » 29 Nov 2016, 23:35
XYZ
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by XYZ » 30 Nov 2016, 22:27
Air Malta will increase MLA-AMS to 8x weekly in S17, with a second flight on Monday.
- KM396 MLA 12.40 - AMS 15.50 A320 Mon
- KM397 AMS 16.50 - MLA 19.50 A320 Mon
Ryanair has announced a 2nd route to AMS for S17 from AGP:
- FR2334 AGP 15.35 - AMS 18.35 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun
- FR2335 AMS 19.20 - AGP 22.20 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun
XYZ
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by XYZ » 09 Dec 2016, 18:59
DY continues to expand at AMS:
Stockholm ARN from 6x to 8x/week:
- AMS 09:30 - ARN 11:30 DY4530 THU - NEW
- AMS 10:30 - ARN 12:30 DY4530 SUN - NEW
- AMS 19:20 - ARN 21:20 DY4532 Sun
- AMS 21:20 - ARN 23:20 DY4532 Mon-Fri
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by XYZ » 15 Dec 2016, 10:15
JAT Airways increases BEG-AMS to 11x/week:
- BEG 06:40 - AMS 09:10 JU360 daily B737
- AMS 10:00 - BEG 12:15 JU361 daily B737
- BEG 17.10 - AMS 19.40 JU362 Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun
- AMS 20:30 - BEG 22:45 JU363 Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun
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by XYZ » 15 Dec 2016, 10:23
The new KLM routes are a combination of regular year-round routes and peak summer destinations only:
- Cagliari - Sat only, daily in July & August.
- Catania - Sat & SUN only, daily in July & August.
- Malaga - Saturday only, daily in July & August.
- Split - Sat & Sun only, daily ex. Sat in July & August.
- Oporto - Daily starting May 2017
- Gdansk - Daily
- Graz - Daily
XYZ
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by XYZ » 15 Dec 2016, 13:41
SK continues to introduce new mid-day frequencies to OSL-AMS in S17:
- SK824 AMS 13:35 - OSL 15:25 CRJ900 Mon, Wed, Thu - NEW
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by XYZ » 15 Dec 2016, 16:27
Vueling will launch a 4x weekly FLR-AMS-FLR, flight operates daily in Peak Summer in July - August:
- FLR 18:15 - AMS 20:40 A320 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun
- AMS 21:20 - FLR 23:30 A320 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun
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by Reanimation » 15 Dec 2016, 19:46
XYZ wrote: Vueling will launch a 4x weekly FLR-AMS-FLR, flight operates daily in Peak Summer in July - August:
- FLR 18:15 - AMS 20:40 A320 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun
- AMS 21:20 - FLR 23:30 A320 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun
Should be an Airbus A319 I suppose? I'm not sure that FLR can accomodate an A320.
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by XYZ » 15 Dec 2016, 22:04
QR has now published a new Schedule for S17, which indicates:
- QR273 DOH 07:30 - AMS 13:20 B773 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun
- QR275 DOH 15:10 - AMS 21:00 B773 Tue, Thu, Sat
- QR274 AMS 16:25 - DOH 23:40 B773 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun
- QR276 AMS 22:35 - DOH 05:50 B773 Tue, Thu, Sat
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by tonjochems » 16 Dec 2016, 09:47
S17 Schedule - GDN
Shoulder 1
KL1917 21-May-17 02-Jul-17 ______7 AMS GDN E90E 0925 1110
KL1918 21-May-17 02-Jul-17 ______7 GDN AMS E90E 1145 1340
KL1919 15-May-17 07-Jul-17 123456_ AMS GDN E90E 1145 1330
KL1920 15-May-17 07-Jul-17 123456_ GDN AMS E90E 1405 1600
Peak
KL1921 08-Jul-17 02-Sep-17 _____6_ AMS GDN E90E 1550 1735
KL1922 08-Jul-17 02-Sep-17 _____6_ GDN AMS E90E 1810 2005
KL1921 09-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 ______7 AMS GDN E90E 1520 1705
KL1922 09-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 ______7 GDN AMS E90E 1740 1935
KL1921 10-Jul-17 01-Sep-17 12345__ AMS GDN E90E 1545 1730
KL1922 10-Jul-17 01-Sep-17 12345__ GDN AMS E90E 1805 2000
Shoulder 2
KL1919 04-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 123456_ AMS GDN E90E 1145 1330
KL1920 04-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 123456_ GDN AMS E90E 1405 1600
KL1917 10-Sep-17 22-Oct-17 ______7 AMS GDN E75E 0925 1110
KL1918 10-Sep-17 22-Oct-17 ______7 GDN AMS E75E 1145 1340
S17 Schedule - GRZ
Shoulder 1
KL1893 15-May-17 07-Jul-17 12345__ AMS GRZ E75E 0925 1110
KL1894 15-May-17 07-Jul-17 12345__ GRZ AMS E75E 1145 1340
KL1895 20-May-17 01-Jul-17 _____6_ AMS GRZ E75E 1145 1330
KL1896 20-May-17 01-Jul-17 _____6_ GRZ AMS E75E 1405 1600
KL1893 21-May-17 02-Jul-17 ______7 AMS GRZ E75E 0940 1125
KL1894 21-May-17 02-Jul-17 ______7 GRZ AMS E75E 1200 1355
Peak
KL1893 09-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 12345_7 AMS GRZ E75E 0940 1125
KL1894 09-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 12345_7 GRZ AMS E75E 1200 1355
KL1895 08-Jul-17 02-Sep-17 _____6_ AMS GRZ E75E 1145 1330
KL1896 08-Jul-17 02-Sep-17 _____6_ GRZ AMS E75E 1405 1600
Shoulder 2
KL1893 04-Sep-17 27-Oct-17 12345__ AMS GRZ E75E 0925 1110
KL1894 04-Sep-17 27-Oct-17 12345__ GRZ AMS E75E 1145 1340
KL1895 09-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 _____6_ AMS GRZ E75E 1150 1335
KL1896 09-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 _____6_ GRZ AMS E75E 1405 1600
KL1893 10-Sep-17 22-Oct-17 ______7 AMS GRZ E75E 0940 1125
KL1894 10-Sep-17 22-Oct-17 ______7 GRZ AMS E75E 1200 1355
S17 Schedule - AGP
Shoulder 1
KL1039 01-Apr-17 01-Jul-17 _____6_ AMS AGP 73WE 1230 1535
KL1040 01-Apr-17 01-Jul-17 _____6_ AGP AMS 73WE 1620 1925
Peak
KL1037 08-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 1234567 AMS AGP 73WE 0930 1235
KL1038 08-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 1234567 AGP AMS 73WE 1320 1625
Shoulder 2
KL1039 09-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 _____6_ AMS AGP 73WE 1230 1535
KL1040 09-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 _____6_ AGP AMS 73WE 1620 1925
S17 Schedule - OPO
Full period
KL1249 15-May-17 28-Oct-17 1234567 AMS OPO 73WE 0845 1030
KL1250 15-May-17 28-Oct-17 1234567 OPO AMS 73WE 1115 1455
S17 Schedule - CAG
Shoulder 1
KL0943 22-Apr-17 01-Jul-17 _____6_ AMS CAG E90E 1300 1525
KL0944 22-Apr-17 01-Jul-17 _____6_ CAG AMS E90E 1610 1850
Peak
KL0941 09-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 12345_7 AMS CAG E90E 0915 1145
KL0942 09-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 12345_7 CAG AMS E90E 1230 1510
KL0943 08-Jul-17 02-Sep-17 _____6_ AMS CAG E90E 1255 1525
KL0944 08-Jul-17 02-Sep-17 _____6_ CAG AMS E90E 1610 1850
Shoulder 2
KL0943 09-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 _____6_ AMS CAG E90E 1300 1525
KL0944 09-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 _____6_ CAG AMS E90E 1610 1850
S17 Schedule - SPU Shoulder 1
KL1945 22-Apr-17 02-Jul-17 _____67 AMS SPU E90E 0945 1200
KL1946 22-Apr-17 01-Jul-17 _____6_ SPU AMS E90E 1250 1515
KL1946 23-Apr-17 02-Jul-17 ______7 SPU AMS E90E 1240 1505
Peak
KL1945 09-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 __3_5_7 AMS SPU 73WE 0950 1205
KL1946 09-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 __3_5_7 SPU AMS 73WE 1250 1515
KL1945 10-Jul-17 29-Aug-17 12_____ AMS SPU 73WE 1020 1235
KL1946 10-Jul-17 29-Aug-17 12_____ SPU AMS 73WE 1320 1545
KL1945 13-Jul-17 31-Aug-17 ___4___ AMS SPU 73WE 0905 1120
KL1946 13-Jul-17 31-Aug-17 ___4___ SPU AMS 73WE 1200 1425
Shoulder 2
KL1945 09-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 _____67 AMS SPU E90E 0945 1200
KL1946 09-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 _____6_ SPU AMS E90E 1250 1515
KL1946 10-Sep-17 22-Oct-17 ______7 SPU AMS E90E 1240 1505
S17 Schedule - CTA
Shoulder 1
KL0911 22-Apr-17 01-Jul-17 _____6_ AMS CTA 73WE 1230 1520
KL0912 22-Apr-17 01-Jul-17 _____6_ CTA AMS 73WE 1620 1925
KL0911 07-May-17 02-Jul-17 ______7 AMS CTA 73WE 1230 1520
KL0912 07-May-17 02-Jul-17 ______7 CTA AMS 73WE 1620 1925
Peak
KL0911 08-Jul-17 02-Sep-17 _____6_ AMS CTA 73WE 1235 1525
KL0912 08-Jul-17 02-Sep-17 _____6_ CTA AMS 73WE 1620 1925
KL0911 09-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 ______7 AMS CTA 73WE 1240 1530
KL0912 09-Jul-17 03-Sep-17 ______7 CTA AMS 73WE 1625 1930
KL0911 10-Jul-17 01-Sep-17 12345__ AMS CTA 73HF 1240 1530
KL0912 10-Jul-17 01-Sep-17 12345__ CTA AMS 73HF 1625 1930
Shoulder 2
KL0911 09-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 _____67 AMS CTA 73WE 1230 1520
KL0912 09-Sep-17 28-Oct-17 _____67 CTA AMS 73WE 1620 1925