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Tour France June/July

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Hello everyone,

Last month I was at the airshow of Nancy and I saw the following on the way to Nancy and to home:

Friday 29 June.
First I went to the museum in Borlo:
ALW-2 A-80

Then to Brustem:
CM-170 MT-03 Pres on roundabout

Sint Truiden:
P-3(-05) D-EPCI (A-859/HB-RCB) Hangar 44
T-28 TROJAN NX377WW (137777/KV-863)
SV-4B V-43 (OO-SVB)

TWIN SQUIRREL OO-VGA (ZJ140)
MIRAGE 5BD BD-09
CM-170 (500) F-AZUS
L-18C D-EBFU (L-52/53-4726)

Nancy openday:
I do only the former military aircraft:


BLERIOT F-DPEP
BT-13A 42-352 (N93/cn. 9102)
CESSNA 170 F-BICE (cn. 26436)
Nieuport 28 C1 LX-NIE (cn.100/n7634)
PC-6 F-GFFD
PIPER CUB (79-LT) / zlin which serial?
Sopwith Scout LX-PUP (replica)
YAK-52 F-WRUI
YAK-52 F-WRUL
CM-170 569 (F-AZZP)
MD-312 226/319-CG (F-AZES)
SV-4A 207 (F-AZYE)
OV-10 BRONCO "55454" (F-AZKM/99+24)
BULLDOG T.1 XX558 (F-AZOG)
BULLDOG T.1 XX615 (F-AZKI)
HARVARD 4 D-FXXX (20373/CCF4-164)
T-6G F-AZCQ (E.16-193/493037)
N2-S3 F-AZGR (4320/cn. 75-2650)

MYSTERE 4A (185) Pres gate
MIRAGE 3E 500 (3-IR)
MIRAGE 3E 529 (3-JS/QB)

Monday 2 July I went to the neighbourhood of Dijon:

MIRAGE 3RD 364 Pres on pole roundabout Epinal-Mirecourt

Savigny Les Beaune:
F-104G FX-90
F-16A FA-55
MIRAGE 5BA BA-08
F-84F / fresh painted in front of green tent

N.2501F 151 (romp)

N.2501F 92 (romp)
Tractormuseum:
F-100D 42295 (nose)
MYSTERE B2 60 (12-ZC/nose)
MYSTERE 4A 24 (8-NQ/nose)
MIRAGE 3C NM (nose)
ETENDARD 4P NM (nose mockup?)
F-8 104 code (nose)
F-84E "FS-669" (5)1-9572/nose)
CM-170 PDF C/S (nose)

VAMPIRE FB.6 J-1178
VENOM FB.54 J-1545
VAMPIRE T.55 185
CM-170 "493/UJ" (14)
MYSTERE 4A "285" (116)
MD-450 "251" (215)
F-84G "110885/3-IX" (5216)
TS-11 (323)
L-29R 2608
SBLim-2 "020" (720)
Lim-2 1811

Dump:
METEOR NF.11 SE-DCH (WM391/H-508)
MYSTERE B2 118 (12-YS)
JAGUAR A A72 (7-HJ) Pres on pole

Lim-6(bis) 306
Lim-5P 609
MIG-19S 0219
MIG-21U 2718
MIG-21MF 23+43 (NVA 774)
MIG-21M 1904
SU-7(BKL) 813
SU-20R 6259
MIG-23MF 3887
BR.1050 04
F-105F (63-8357)
CM-170 166 (10-KK)
VAUTOUR 2A NM (2/92-AB)
LIGHTNING F.1 (XM178)
METEOR T.7 F6
METEOR NF.11 SE-DCF (WM395/H-512)
L-39C 53yl (RA-3366K/cn.132029)
H-34A SA114 (68-UF)
MI-2 0625
WHIRLWIND SR.2 "WAD129" CCV (WAD130)
F-100F 63937 (11-YH)
F-100D 42130 (11-YF)
MIRAGE 4A 18 (AQ)
ALW-2 1247 (F-MJBD)
HARVARD 2A (1527/7248/EX580)
F-100F GT-949 (56-3949)
MIRAGE 4A 04 (tail only)
ETENDARD 4M 60 (tail only)
T-33AN 21029
CM-170 MT-33 (red devil c/s)
F-86D `23667` (51-5977/F-977)
CL-13B SABRE 6 JA+339
F-84F FU-45
RF-84F FR-26
TF-104G FC-08
JAGUAR E E10 (339-WF)
CF-104 `12751/751` (104799)
F-84F 29003 (4-SA/008)
F-84G (51-)9978/KPX (A-057)
JAGUAR A A8 (11-EB)
JAGUAR A A21 (11-YA)
G-91T 1801
G-91R 32+43
CM-175 2
MS-760 46
ETENDARD 4M 16
ETENDARD 4P 166
F-8P 35
F-8E 150879/AH-204 (1)
MD-450 230 (4-US)
MYSTERE 2C 013
MYSTERE 4A 289 (2-EY)
F-100D 52739 (tail only)
MYSTERE 4A 37 (8-QE)
SUPER MYSTERE 02
MYSTERE B2 69 (12-YG)
MIRAGE 3A 06
MIRAGE 3C 50 (3.10-LD)
MIRAGE 3O O01
MIRAGE 3E 438 (13-QI)
MIRAGE 3B 216
MIRAGE 3R 323 (33-TB)
MIRAGE 3R 324 (2-ZM)
MIRAGE 3RD 354 (33-TC)
MIRAGE 5F 9 (13-SH)
MIRAGE F-1C 9 (12-ZQ)
MIRAGE 4A 6 (AE)

Tuesday 3 July
Saint Brice Courcelles near Reims du Champagne in front of L'eclerc
MIRAGE 5BR (BR-23) 112-SR

Buzet airfield:
CM-170 532 (313-DH)

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Re: Tour France June/July

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Thanks for the log! A few questions regarding Savigny:
MYSTERE 4A "285" (116)
This is in EMOOS as unknown real id. I know 116 used to be stored at Savigny, but how was the tie up made? According to earlier logs, "285" was seen as early as 2003, while 116 was still noted in 2005, so that would suggest they are two different aircraft?
MYSTERE 4A 37 (8-QE)
Serial 37 was written off in 1963. Both 39 and 47 should be preserved at Savigny and are not in your list, is this a typo or maybe a repaint?
CM-170 PDF C/S (nose)
Too late for now, but a CM.170 has the c/n plate in the cockpit, between the front and rear seat. So should be easy to identify (assuming you can get close enough of course).
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Re: Tour France June/July

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Hello,

Mystere 4A "285" / 116 was following the MACH III publisching 2014/15 of Ian Carroll.

Mystere 4A 37 (8-QE), 37 was on the tail. Maybe 39 (ex code 8-QP) It was for me hard to read, because the paint was very bad en the last row were the tails in the Woods.

CM-170 PdF c/s (nose) was a repaint, which I couldn't Identifiy.
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Ok, thanks for the feedback.
Cheers,

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Sukhoi22 wrote:Nancy openday:
I do only the former military aircraft:

BLERIOT F-DPEP should be F-PDEP, and it's a replica of Deperdussin Type T, not a Bleriot, so no former MIL. The Bleriot XI replica was F-18RG (ultralight registration)
BT-13A 42-352 (N93/cn. 9102)
CESSNA 170 F-BICE (cn. 26436) NOT ex MIL, already F-BICE in 1959 and N2893C before that
Nieuport 28 C1 LX-NIE (cn.100/n7634) is a replica, so no former MIL
PC-6 F-GFFD NOT ex-MIL
PIPER CUB (79-LT) / zlin which serial? NOT ex-MIL, but a Czech ultralight Zlin Savage looking like a Cub... 79-LT is the French ultralight registration, owner lives in departement 79 (Deux-Sèvres, in this case)
Sopwith Scout LX-PUP (replica) so NOT ex-MIL
YAK-52 F-WRUI only recently registered, MIL/EX-MIL still tbc
YAK-52 F-WRUL only recently registered, MIL/EX-MIL still tbc

Also missing from this list are the cockpit sections that were in use as simulators in the hangar. You can find the serials in the airshow topic :wink:

Sukhoi22
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frank kramer wrote:
Sukhoi22 wrote:Nancy openday:
YAK-52 F-WRUI only recently registered, MIL/EX-MIL still tbc
YAK-52 F-WRUL only recently registered, MIL/EX-MIL still tbc
Also missing from this list are the cockpit sections that were in use as simulators in the hangar. You can find the serials in the airshow topic :wink: Sukhoi22
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F-WRUI c/n 856009 (ex Ukraine)
F-WRUK c/n 822109?
Registered several years ago.
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Thanks for that. I could not find them in the official register of the French DGAC (Direction Generale de l'Aviation Civile) or in the less official Air Britain registers... And I suppose "F-WRUK" was a typo for "F-WRUL"?
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frank kramer wrote:Thanks for that. I could not find them in the official register of the French DGAC (Direction Generale de l'Aviation Civile) or in the less official Air Britain registers... And I suppose "F-WRUK" was a typo for "F-WRUL"?
Oeps, F-WRUK is a different a/c.
The Yak-52 demo team are:
F-WRUI c/n 856009 (ex Ukraine)
F-WRUL c/n 844201
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Thanks for your answers.
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