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akarssen wrote: PH-AOD (738) April 2005
Make that 2006 :wink:

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Who or what is Interstate Airlines? Never heard of them.
Interstate Airlines is an airline based in Maastricht Aachen Airport, it's the latest airline created by Roberto Stinga, ex Air Exel, ex V-Bird, ex Virgin, etc.

They is operating one Atr42, PH-ISA:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7020/p ... red0kc.jpg

Interstate also has one A300, thats operating for UPS, registration PH-EAN, its flying between toulouse and cologne.. the plane is registered on the name of Hemmer Management & Beheer BV. Its still in all white colors

The B747-200F, will be flown to Holland in a couple of weeks, its a former Evergreen aircraft.

Future expansions:
- Interstate Airlines also wants to get some B737-500's..
- the registrations PH-ISB and PH-ISC are reserved for two more Atr42's.

Look also here for more info:
http://www.mst-aviation.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2121

hope this is enough info, more to follow offcourse...
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Re: The Dutch airliner delivery thread

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richarduk wrote: KLM Cityhopper
Fokker 100s:
PH-OFL - soon?
This should be the 11444 which was delivered to AMS on Saturday as the SXA544, reg F-OORG.

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flying_kiwi wrote:
richarduk wrote: KLM Cityhopper
Fokker 100s:
PH-OFL - soon?
This should be the 11444 which was delivered to AMS on Saturday as the SXA544, reg F-OORG.

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And its planned delivery is at December 24th; it's an ex Pelita (like the other two that will be delivered soon) and was stored at Dinard since June.
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akarssen wrote: And its planned delivery is at December 24th; it's an ex Pelita (like the other two that will be delivered soon) and was stored at Dinard since June.
Note I said it was delivered to AMS last Saturday, it might have still needed to go into the paintshop, and might not be ready for use until the 24th, but it most definately arrived in AMS on the 10th.

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Next page, new updated list......

I don't mind, editing this list with added info in this thread. :wink:

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KLM Cityhopper

Fokker 100:
PH-OFL - Dec 2005
PH-OFM - Nov 2005
PH-OFN - Dec 2005

KLM

Boeing 737-800:
PH-BXU - Apr 2006
PH-BXx - dd 2007

A330-200:
PH-AOD - (738) Apr 2006
PH-AOE - (770) Aug 2006
PH-AOF - (801) Dec 2006
PH-AOH - Feb 2007 [ILFC]
PH-AOI - Mar 2007 [ILFC]
PH- dd ?
PH- dd ?

Boeing 777-200:
PH-BQL - Jan 2006
PH-BQM - Mar 2006
PH-BQN - May 2006 [ILFC]
PH-xxx - Mar 2007 [ILFC]
PH-xxx dd ?
PH-xxx dd ?
PH-xxx dd ?
PH-xxx dd ?

Boeing 744F:
PH-CKD - Oct 2006

Transavia

Boeing 737:
{no details yet}

Martinair

Boeing 747-400BCF:
PH-xxx - end 2006
PH-xxx - 2007
PH-xxx - 2007
PH-xxx - early 2008

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MST/EHBK:

Interstate Airlines

ATR42:
PH-ISB - dd ?
PH-ISC - dd ?

B747-200F:
xx-xxx - Dec 2005

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As far as i know this should be the latest updated list. Some queries i have:

Noticed the delivery of ex Pelita Fokker have been delayed. Can anyone provide new del. dates ?

Do we want msn info to be added when available ?

We are a collective, so if you hae any additional remarks, feel free.....

Bye, Chris.
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Checked this again with my source at Guggenheim.
76-er wrote:Guggenheim has several 747 pax-to-freighter conversersion orders, both with Boeing and Bedek.
Two ex ACA pax 747's are going to be converted by IAI/Bedek for an Asian customer. All converted freighters for MPH will be Boeing converted according to the same source.

So unless anyone can prove i'm wrong, i'll stick to what my source tells me..... 8)

Bye, Chris.
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flying_kiwi wrote:
akarssen wrote: And its planned delivery is at December 24th; it's an ex Pelita (like the other two that will be delivered soon) and was stored at Dinard since June.
Note I said it was delivered to AMS last Saturday, it might have still needed to go into the paintshop, and might not be ready for use until the 24th, but it most definately arrived in AMS on the 10th.

Regards,
Yorden
That's what I meant. It arrived in basic Pelita c/s no tit with reg F-OORG under SXA flight number; Will be painted in the next days and delivered to KLM in full c/s. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I definitely did not disagree with you; it was meant as an addition.
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cHabu wrote:
HV7572KC wrote:Is there already a new boss for the MP 747s? Think the -BUH will go to Mojave directly, but the -200's...
Haven't heard any news 'bout this. Perhaps anyone from MPH with inside info on this ?

Bye, Chris.
According to what I've heard two have already found a new home... Don't have any info regarding the registrations but we can safely assume it isn't the -BUH !

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cHabu wrote:Checked this again with my source at Guggenheim.
76-er wrote:Guggenheim has several 747 pax-to-freighter conversersion orders, both with Boeing and Bedek.
Two ex ACA pax 747's are going to be converted by IAI/Bedek for an Asian customer. All converted freighters for MPH will be Boeing converted according to the same source.

So unless anyone can prove i'm wrong, i'll stick to what my source tells me..... 8)

Bye, Chris.
Found the following article : http://www.boeing.com/commercial/news/2 ... 1018g.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
SEATTLE, Oct. 18, 2005 -- Guggenheim Aviation Partners has ordered two 747-400 Boeing Converted Freighter combi-to-freighter conversions. Both deliveries will take place in 2008, according to an agreement signed by Guggenheim and Boeing.

Guggenheim previously ordered five 747-400BCF passenger-to-freighter conversions. Boeing launched the Boeing Converted Freighter program for passenger conversions in 2004; it was known as the 747-400 Special Freighter program until recently. A Boeing-approved modification facility will convert the airplanes, a process that Boeing's Commercial Aviation Services unit will manage....{snip, if you want to read the whole article, click link above}
76-er,
Sorry to say but all 744 pax-to-freighter conversions are Boeing Cenverted Freighters as it is Boeing that has done the engineering for the conversion and has requested type certification for the 'new' type. That the actual modification is done by Bedek or TAECO (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/news/2 ... 9b_nr.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) or some other Boeing-approved modification facility does not matter.

Brgds, MP744SF.
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The second ex-Pelita F100 can be expected to arrive in AMS on Friday. I'll post more details (reg, c/n, etc.) when I can. I'm assuming that this will become the PH-OFM.

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MP744SF wrote: 76-er,
Sorry to say but all 744 pax-to-freighter conversions are Boeing Cenverted Freighters as it is Boeing that has done the engineering for the conversion and has requested type certification for the 'new' type. That the actual modification is done by Bedek or TAECO (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/news/2 ... 9b_nr.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) or some other Boeing-approved modification facility does not matter.
I was of the understanding that only the conversions done by a Boeing approved facility were considered to be BCF's. And at the moment, TAECO is the only Boeing approved location for BCF conversions as noted at the bottom ofthis article.
The conversions by Bedek are of there own design, and subject to a separate STC, so cannot be considered to be BCF's.

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My apologies, Kiwi is correct. MP's 744BSF's will be converted in China on a Boeing subcontract. Aircraft modified by Bedek's competing design will be called 744SF's.
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=====

KLM Cityhopper

Fokker 100:
PH-OFL - Dec 2005
PH-OFM - Nov 2005
PH-OFN - Dec 2005

KLM

Boeing 737-800:
PH-BXU - Apr 2006
PH-BXx - dd 2007

A330-200:
PH-AOD - (738) Apr 2006
PH-AOE - (770) Aug 2006
PH-AOF - (801) Dec 2006
PH-AOH - Feb 2007 [ILFC]
PH-AOI - Mar 2007 [ILFC]
PH- dd ?
PH- dd ?

Boeing 777-200:
PH-BQL - Jan 2006
PH-BQM - Mar 2006
PH-BQN - May 2006 [ILFC]
PH-xxx - Mar 2007 [ILFC]
PH-xxx dd ?
PH-xxx dd ?
PH-xxx dd ?
PH-xxx dd ?

Boeing 744F:
PH-CKD - Oct 2006

Transavia

Boeing 737:
1 737-?
PH-xxx - unknown zie boeing orders update


Martinair

Boeing 747-400BCF:
PH-xxx - end 2006
PH-xxx - 2007
PH-xxx - 2007
PH-xxx - early 2008

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MST/EHBK:

Interstate Airlines

ATR42:
PH-ISB - dd ?
PH-ISC - dd ?

B747-200F:
xx-xxx - Dec 2005

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de boeing orders pagina op hun site is geupdate.
met daarop 1 transavia 737, 1 voor klm en 3 777's. de klm orders staan al op de lijst hierboven denk ik
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KLM Cityhopper

Fokker 100:
PH-OFL - (11444) 23 Dec 2005
PH-OFM - (11475) 2005 /2006?
PH-OFN - (11477) 2006
all ex-Pelita

Martinair

Boeing 747-400BCF:
all leased from Guggenheim
PH-xxx - (24061) end 2006
PH-xxx - 2007
PH-xxx - 2007
PH-xxx - early 2008
24066, 24226 and 24975
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