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Exp Arrivals/ Departure LFSI-17-06-2011

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ETA0730z SUI050 B190 REG/T-729
ETD0805z SUI050 B190 REG/T-729
ETA0920z FAF601 AJet
ETA0940z FAF602 AJet
ETA1000z FAF603 AJet
ETA1000z CEF636 C295 REG/0455
ETA1030z RFR7160 TOR
ETA1030z RFR7161 TOR
ETA1030z RFR7162 TOR
ETA1045z CTM3154 C160
ETA1100z REDAROW Hawk

(update 16.06.2011/ 2355lt.)
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Re: MNA St. Dizier 18-19 June

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Borygo wrote:
Tigerspoon wrote:EXP-16-06-2011

ETA1040z PLF960 Su22
And Casa for support.

Yep. Should be 011 PLF051! Nothing more till now.......
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Re: MNA St. Dizier 18-19 June

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The Casa is the 011 and the Sukhoj is the 707.

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Re: MNA St. Dizier unway r18-19 June

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spent one day in the runway 29 approach between 06.30 and 18.30 and this is what has been noted in action in that time frame (straight from the book, no oldtimers and civilians recorded):

Rafale C 113-IW spec c/s local mission/display
Rafale C 113-IZ spec c/s display

Alpha Jet EC2 flying only
Ecureuil (UZ) arr
Mirage F.1CR 643/112-CI arr
TB.30 .../315-.. grey c/s arr

Alpha Jet Patrouille France 0 arr
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E85/1 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E46/3 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E163/2 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E150/4 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E117/5 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France 6 arr
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E1.2/7 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E156?/8 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E95/9 arr/display

Mirage 2000N 337/116-BF arr
Mirage 2000N 355/125-AE no badge arr/display
Mirage 2000N 368/125-AR no badge arr/display
Mirage 2000N 370/125-CO arr

Mirage 2000D 661/133-XI arr
Mirage 2000C .../115-YM arr
Mirage 2000C .../115-KF arr

C-160NG 55/61-ZC arr/dep

Gazelle ALAT (GBR) arr

F-16AM FA95/- no badge arr
F-16AM FA110/- demo c/s arr/display

JAS39D Czech AF 9820 arr
Mi-24 Czech AF 0981 arr/display
C292 Czech AF 0455 arr

EF.2000 JG73 31+19 arr
EF.2000 JG73 31+20 arr

Falcon 20ECM KNL 053 arr

TA-4SU 933 arr
A-4SU 927 arr

FA-18C Swiss AF J-5017 spec tail arr/display
FA-18C Swiss AF J-5026 arr
Beech Swiss AF T-729 arr/dep

Tornado GR.4 617 Sqn ZA492/033 no badge arr/display
Tornado GR.4 617 Sqn ZA607/070 arr/display
Tornado GR.4 15 Sqn ZD8../105 arr

Hawk Red Arrows XX(229) arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX306 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX(...) arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX308 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX322 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX177 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX237 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX264 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX227 arr

Tucano ZF349/349 arr

EF.2000 4 Stormo 4-15 arr

that's all, not too much, but Singapure A-4s!
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Re: MNA St. Dizier unway r18-19 June

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Richard de Florennes wrote:spent one day in the runway 29 approach between 06.30 and 18.30 and this is what has been noted in action in that time frame (straight from the book, no oldtimers and civilians recorded):

Rafale C 113-IW spec c/s local mission/display
Rafale C 113-IZ spec c/s display

Alpha Jet EC2 flying only
Ecureuil (UZ) arr
Mirage F.1CR 643/112-CI arr
TB.30 .../315-.. grey c/s arr

Alpha Jet Patrouille France 0 arr
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E85/1 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E46/3 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E163/2 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E150/4 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E117/5 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France 6 arr
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E1.2/7 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E156?/8 arr/display
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E95/9 arr/display

Mirage 2000N 337/116-BF arr
Mirage 2000N 355/125-AE no badge arr/display
Mirage 2000N 368/125-AR no badge arr/display
Mirage 2000N 370/125-CO arr

Mirage 2000D 661/133-XI arr
Mirage 2000C .../115-YM arr
Mirage 2000C .../115-KF arr

C-160NG 55/61-ZC arr/dep

Gazelle ALAT (GBR) arr

F-16AM FA95/- no badge arr
F-16AM FA110/- demo c/s arr/display

JAS39D Czech AF 9820 arr
Mi-24 Czech AF 0981 arr/display
C292 Czech AF 0455 arr

EF.2000 JG73 31+19 arr
EF.2000 JG73 31+20 arr

Falcon 20ECM KNL 053 arr

TA-4SU 933 arr
A-4SU 927 arr

FA-18C Swiss AF J-5017 spec tail arr/display
FA-18C Swiss AF J-5026 arr
Beech Swiss AF T-729 arr/dep

Tornado GR.4 617 Sqn ZA492/033 no badge arr/display
Tornado GR.4 617 Sqn ZA607/070 arr/display
Tornado GR.4 15 Sqn ZD8../105 arr

Hawk Red Arrows XX(229) arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX306 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX(...) arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX308 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX322 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX177 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX237 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX264 arr
Hawk Red Arrows XX227 arr

Tucano ZF349/349 arr

EF.2000 4 Stormo 4-15 arr

that's all, not too much, but Singapure A-4s!
Rafale C 113-IZ spec c/s display =121/113-IZ

TB.30 .../315-.. grey c/s arr = 65/315WH

Alpha Jet Patrouille France 6 arr = E44/6
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E150/4 arr/display = E130/4
Alpha Jet Patrouille France E156?/8 arr/display = E136/8

Mirage 2000N 370/125-CO arr = 370/125-CQ

Mirage 2000C .../115-YM arr = 115/115-YM
Mirage 2000C .../115-KF arr = 111/1115-KF

Mi-24 Czech AF 0981 arr/display = Mi-24V

C292 Czech AF 0455 arr = C295M

Tornado GR.4 15 Sqn ZD8../105 arr = ZD842/105

Hawk Red Arrows XX177 arr = Hawk T1
Hawk Red Arrows XX227 arr = Hawk T1A
Hawk Red Arrows XX237 arr = Hawk T1
Hawk Red Arrows XX(229) arr = Hawk T1XX242
Hawk Red Arrows XX264 arr = Hawk T1A
Hawk Red Arrows XX306 arr = Hawk T1A
Hawk Red Arrows XX(...) arr = ?
Hawk Red Arrows XX308 arr = Hawk T1
Hawk Red Arrows XX322 arr = Hawk T1A

EF.2000 4 Stormo 4-15 arr = MM7307/4-15

Weather was good :D
Greetz John
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Re: MNA St. Dizier 18-19 June

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My full log for Saturday 18 June. Of these, the Red Arrows already left, as did at least one of the Tornados.

Static 
C.295M		0455
JAS-39D		9820
Mi-24V		0981
Tucano T1	ZF349
EF.2000		3119, 3120
EF.2000		MM7307/4-15
Da.20ECM	053
C.295M		011
S-22UM-3K	707
A-4SU		927
TA-4SU		933
Mirage F1CR	643/112-CE
Mirage 2000C	111/115-XF, 115/115-YM
Mirage 2000D	661/133-XI
Mirage 2000N	368/125-AR
Rafale B	317/113-HO, 318/113-HM, 334/113-II
Rafale C	119/113-IX, 128/113-GG
Rafale M	29
TB.30		65/315-WH
EC.135T2+	F-MJDI (c/n 0797)
SA.342M		4223/GER
ASW20CL		F-CGCO/SD
??		F-GGNJ
G.120		F-GUKS
MCR M		F-PMSY (c/n 338)
Static/Flightline 
MD.311		F-AZGE/P
??		F-AZGR
MD.312		F-AZKT (260/316-KT)
MS.733		F-AZOH/TB (c/n 63)
MS.317		F-BFZK (271)
L-21		F-PCMM (485273/L-44)
Hangar 
"Big Frog"	F-WNXT
Hangar 
Rafale B	310/113-HC, 315/113-HK, 333/113-IH
Rafale C	102/113-EF
Flightline 
F-16AM		FA95, FA110
Hawk T1		XX177, XX227, XX237, XX242, XX260, XX264, XX266, XX306, XX308, XX322
Tornado GR4	ZA607/070, ZA942/033
F/A-18C		J-5017, J-5026
Alpha Jet E	E134/0, E85/1, A163/2, E46/3, A13-/4, E17/5, E44/6, E162/7, E158/8, E95/9
Rafale C	118/113-IW, 121/113-IZ
C-160R		R55/61-ZC
L-39		ES-YLX/1, ES-YLS/2, ES-TLG/3, ES-YLI/4, ES-TLF/5, ES-YLF/6, ES-YLP/7
T-6		F-AZAU/115-113
Yak-11		F-AZNN/14
Vampire		F-AZOP/DU-M
C-47		F-AZOX
B.47		F-GGLB
Cri-cri		F-PCLF
??		F-PYSM, F-PJLB
EA.300L		JY-RFA, JY-RFB, JY-RFC, JY-RFD
Sunsheds 
Tornado GR4	ZD842/XV-105
Alpha Jet E	E119
EA330SC		05/F-TGCJ
Mirage 2000N	337/116-BF, 355/125-AE, 370/125-CQ
TB.20		F-GBNN +1
Pioneer 300STD	../13-NT
Far side 
MH.1521		1x
Elsewhere 
AS.355UN	..../UZ
TBM.700		131/XQ
Flying 
C-135FR		1x
Preserved 
CM.170		46
F-84F		29094/1-PA
Jaguar A	A113/7-HT, A124/11-RJ/11-YD
Jaguar E	E36/7-PK
Mirage 4	../AO, 61/CH
T-33AN		16524/338-H
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Re: MNA St. Dizier 18-19 June

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ehusmann wrote:My full log for Saturday 18 June. Of these, the Red Arrows already left, as did at least one of the Tornados.
Hello Erwin,

Please find some corrections and additions below:

Static:
C.295M 0455 242.tsl
JAS-39D 9820 211.tl
Mi-24V 0981 221.lbvr
Rafale B 318/113-HM EC 01.091
Rafale C 128/113-GG,317/113-HO EC 01.091
Rafale C 119/113-IX EC 01.007
SA.342L1 4223/GER 3RHC
Mirage 2000C 111/115-KF, 115/115-YM EC 02.005
Mirage 2000N 368/125-AR EC 03.004
Mirage F1CR 643/112-CE ER 02.033
TB.30 65/315-WH EPAA00.315
EF.2000 31+19,31+20 JG73
EF.2000 MM7307/4-15 4° St/9° Gr
Da.20ECM 053 FEKS/717 skv
C.295M 011 13.eltr

Flightline:
Alpha Jet E E163/2, A130/4, E117/5 EPAA20.300
C-160R R55/61-ZC ET00.061
F/A-18C J-5017 FlSt17
F/A-18C J-5026 nm
Tornado GR.4 ZA607/070 617sq
Tornado GR.4 ZA492/033 nm

Sunsheds:
EA330SC 05/F-TGCJ EVAA
Tornado GR.4 ZD842/105 15sq

Flying:
C-135FR CM
TBM-700A 131/XQ

Elsewhere:
AS.555AN UZ

Maintenance Hangar (behind static right of entrance)
Rafale C 105/113-HE,113/113-IR,116/113-IU,117/113-IV,127/113-GF
Rafale B 312/113-HF,320/113-HV,322/113-HU,325/113-HX,327/113-HZ,330/113-IE,337/113-IL
All were read ourselves and multiple checked so this the complete list from the hangar. In the stress of getting the serials/codes we were unable to get any of the unit markings.

BR,
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There was also a unknown CM-170 on the flightline. Somebody read it off??

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jreijmer wrote:
ehusmann wrote:My full log for Saturday 18 June. Of these, the Red Arrows already left, as did at least one of the Tornados.
Hello Erwin,

Please find some corrections and additions below:

Static:
C.295M 0455 242.tsl
JAS-39D 9820 211.tl
Mi-24V 0981 221.lbvr
Rafale B 318/113-HM EC 01.091
Rafale C 128/113-GG,317/113-HO EC 01.091
Rafale C 119/113-IX EC 01.007
SA.342L1 4223/GER 3RHC
Mirage 2000C 111/115-KF, 115/115-YM EC 02.005
Mirage 2000N 368/125-AR EC 03.004
Mirage F1CR 643/112-CE ER 02.033
TB.30 65/315-WH EPAA00.315
EF.2000 31+19,31+20 JG73
EF.2000 MM7307/4-15 4° St/9° Gr
Da.20ECM 053 FEKS/717 skv
C.295M 011 13.eltr

Flightline:
Alpha Jet E E163/2, A130/4, E117/5 EPAA20.300
C-160R R55/61-ZC ET00.061
F/A-18C J-5017 FlSt17
F/A-18C J-5026 nm
Tornado GR.4 ZA607/070 617sq
Tornado GR.4 ZA492/033 nm

Sunsheds:
EA330SC 05/F-TGCJ EVAA
Tornado GR.4 ZD842/105 15sq

Flying:
C-135FR CM
TBM-700A 131/XQ

Elsewhere:
AS.555AN UZ

Maintenance Hangar (behind static right of entrance)
Rafale C 105/113-HE,113/113-IR,116/113-IU,117/113-IV,127/113-GF
Rafale B 312/113-HF,320/113-HV,322/113-HU,325/113-HX,327/113-HZ,330/113-IE,337/113-IL
All were read ourselves and multiple checked so this the complete list from the hangar. In the stress of getting the serials/codes we were unable to get any of the unit markings.

BR,
Jeroen
We can't come into the hanar, because off the militair stopt us.
When you stood infront off the hangar which six stood in the right and which six in the right one?
Maybe some ome can tell the right postions of the 12 Rafale??

René
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ehusmann wrote:My full log for Saturday 18 June. Of these, the Red Arrows already left, as did at least one of the Tornados.

Static 
C.295M		0455
JAS-39D		9820
Mi-24V		0981
Tucano T1	ZF349
EF.2000		3119, 3120
EF.2000		MM7307/4-15
Da.20ECM	053
C.295M		011
S-22UM-3K	707
A-4SU		927
TA-4SU		933
Mirage F1CR	643/112-CE
Mirage 2000C	111/115-XF, 115/115-YM
Mirage 2000D	661/133-XI
Mirage 2000N	368/125-AR
Rafale B	317/113-HO, 318/113-HM, 334/113-II
Rafale C	119/113-IX, 128/113-GG
Rafale M	29
TB.30		65/315-WH
EC.135T2+	F-MJDI (c/n 0797)
SA.342M		4223/GER
ASW20CL		F-CGCO/SD
??		F-GGNJ
G.120		F-GUKS
MCR M		F-PMSY (c/n 338)
Static/Flightline 
MD.311		F-AZGE/P
??		F-AZGR
MD.312		F-AZKT (260/316-KT)
MS.733		F-AZOH/TB (c/n 63)
MS.317		F-BFZK (271)
L-21		F-PCMM (485273/L-44)
Hangar 
"Big Frog"	F-WNXT
Hangar 
Rafale B	310/113-HC, 315/113-HK, 333/113-IH
Rafale C	102/113-EF
Flightline 
F-16AM		FA95, FA110
Hawk T1		XX177, XX227, XX237, XX242, XX260, XX264, XX266, XX306, XX308, XX322
Tornado GR4	ZA607/070, ZA942/033
F/A-18C		J-5017, J-5026
Alpha Jet E	E134/0, E85/1, A163/2, E46/3, A13-/4, E17/5, E44/6, E162/7, E158/8, E95/9
Rafale C	118/113-IW, 121/113-IZ
C-160R		R55/61-ZC
L-39		ES-YLX/1, ES-YLS/2, ES-TLG/3, ES-YLI/4, ES-TLF/5, ES-YLF/6, ES-YLP/7
T-6		F-AZAU/115-113
Yak-11		F-AZNN/14
Vampire		F-AZOP/DU-M
C-47		F-AZOX
B.47		F-GGLB
Cri-cri		F-PCLF
??		F-PYSM, F-PJLB
EA.300L		JY-RFA, JY-RFB, JY-RFC, JY-RFD
Sunsheds 
Tornado GR4	ZD842/XV-105
Alpha Jet E	E119
EA330SC		05/F-TGCJ
Mirage 2000N	337/116-BF, 355/125-AE, 370/125-CQ
TB.20		F-GBNN +1
Pioneer 300STD	../13-NT
Far side 
MH.1521		1x
Elsewhere 
AS.355UN	..../UZ
TBM.700		131/XQ
Flying 
C-135FR		1x
Preserved 
CM.170		46
F-84F		29094/1-PA
Jaguar A	A113/7-HT, A124/11-RJ/11-YD
Jaguar E	E36/7-PK
Mirage 4	../AO, 61/CH
T-33AN		16524/338-H
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There was another Jaguar preserved E36/7-PK infront off the bulding at the right side of the field (AS555AN).

Some read the Mirage3 at the other side of the field? Together with the MH1521 43-DB?

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i was told that 322 325 320 312 337 116 WERE IN THE LEFT HANGAR

330 117 113 327 127 105 WERE IN THE RIGHT HANGAR
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davidalbrecht wrote:i was told that 322 325 320 312 337 116 WERE IN THE LEFT HANGAR

330 117 113 327 127 105 WERE IN THE RIGHT HANGAR
Thx,

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Re: MNA St. Dizier 18-19 June

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YOXA wrote: We can't come into the hanar, because off the militair stopt us.
When you stood infront off the hangar which six stood in the right and which six in the right one?
Maybe some ome can tell the right postions of the 12 Rafale??

René
Hello René (and others meanwhile),

EDIT: Together with some other information I've recieved (thx AMC and Roger via MSF), I was able to make the map (in my opinion the final one) of the maintenance hangar.

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The 4 red arrows point out the places to spot from the front where the rubbers between the doors could be opened.

BR,
Jeroen
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jreijmer wrote:
YOXA wrote: We can't come into the hanar, because off the militair stopt us.
When you stood infront off the hangar which six stood in the right and which six in the right one?
Maybe some ome can tell the right postions of the 12 Rafale??

René
Hello René,

I've got to figure out which ones were where exactly. I know a few. I hope someone else can help us out.

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The order in which I wrote the codes and serials down is as follows:
116/IU, 337/IL, 312/HF, 322/HU, 325/HX, 327/HZ, 105/HE, 113/IR, 330/IE, 117/IV . We entered the hangar at the upper left side and walked counter clockwise. Both the 127/GF and 320/HV were already identified from outside so they are not in the line of sequence. The 4 red arrows point out the places to spot from the front where the rubbers between the doors could be opened. Please note that all in Italic have their locations not confirmed! The information is in line with the previous posts indicating what was left and what was right. As soon as new information is available I will add this to this picture.

BR,
Jeroen

Perfect Jeroen!! Maybe the locations will be confirm. I missed the two in the back in the left hangar (312 and 116 now in the picture)

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someone for the "dumped" Jaguar on the north side of the airfield!? it was parked behind some wall's!!
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