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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Zim-pix wrote: 11 Sep 2022, 16:27 The 148th FS birds do they stay in the US?
Those are all sold.... :(
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Sold to Draken, to be exact. So in principle they will stay in the US indeed, althoug you never know where they might go if a foreign contract is won by Draken.
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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patrick dirksen wrote: 14 Sep 2022, 20:29 Sold to Draken, to be exact. So in principle they will stay in the US indeed, althoug you never know where they might go if a foreign contract is won by Draken.
Very little chance that you will see them outside the US in the future, since the contract includes the condition that they may only be sold to Draken when not used outside the US.
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Have the "old to Draken F-16's" left the RNLAF inventory already ?!?
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Bunzing wrote: 17 Sep 2022, 15:36
patrick dirksen wrote: 14 Sep 2022, 20:29 Sold to Draken, to be exact. So in principle they will stay in the US indeed, althoug you never know where they might go if a foreign contract is won by Draken.
Very little chance that you will see them outside the US in the future, since the contract includes the condition that they may only be sold to Draken when not used outside the US.
Ah, I didn't read that anywhere, nice additional information. And indeed then chances are really slim....
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Pauljos2001 wrote: 17 Sep 2022, 16:54 Have the "old to Draken F-16's" left the RNLAF inventory already ?!?
Your question is a bit unclear. If you mean: have the F-16s that are sold to Draken already been wfu by the RNLAF, then the answer is yes. The contingent at Tucson AFB has been disbanded, if I am right they are currently busy packing up their things and deciding which bits to take home and which to leave in the USA. Their last mission was flown already some time ago.
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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update: J-015 carries 312 sqn markings in toned down
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Again many thanks for the updates.

With the J-015 receiving a 312sq badge only 1 Bonzo F-16 remains without markings.

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J-015 with toned down squadron markings by Jeroen Land on Facebook

The J-641 returned from Woensdrecht on the 28th of September.

Please find below the September 2022 list with the updates in red:

Volkel 312sq (29 x F-16AM)
J-003 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 21jul2022
J-005 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-006 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-008 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-011 F-16AM 312sq no badge and tailband 2022
J-013 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-014 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-015 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-016 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-017 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 30aug2022
J-020 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-021 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-055 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and partial toned down North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-060 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-062 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-063 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband + 'MiG-29 kill' left side 2022
J-136 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-146 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-197 F-16AM 312sq 70 years 312sq tail special c/s 2022
J-201 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-367 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-508 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-509 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-512 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 26apr2022
J-514 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022 SABCA Charleroi 11aug2022
J-515 F-16AM 312sq full colour badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 23feb2022
J-516 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-641 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-644 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
Last edited by JPS on 03 Nov 2023, 20:25, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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If only they would stop selling/scrapping all the flight worthy birds!!!
We are sadly getting closer and closer to a point were we might really need them.
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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JPS wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 17:32 Again many thanks for the updates.

With the J-015 receiving a 312sq badge only 1 Bonzo F-16 remains without markings.

The J-641 returned from Woensdrecht on the 28th of September.

Please find below the September 2022 list with the updates in red:

Volkel 312sq (29 x F-16AM)
J-003 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 21jul2022
J-005 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-006 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-008 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-011 F-16AM 312sq no badge and tailband 2022
J-013 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-014 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-015 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-016 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-017 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 30aug2022
J-020 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-021 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-055 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and partial toned down North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-060 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-062 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-063 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband + 'MiG-29 kill' left side 2022
J-136 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-146 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-197 F-16AM 312sq 70 years 312sq tail special c/s 2022
J-201 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-367 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-508 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-509 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-512 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 26apr2022
J-514 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022 SABCA Charleroi 11aug2022
J-515 F-16AM 312sq full colour badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 23feb2022
J-516 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-641 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-644 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-509 is wfu since 15-08-2022
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Zonan wrote: 02 Oct 2022, 17:18 J-509 is wfu since 15-08-2022
Theo van den Boomen wrote: 26 Aug 2022, 21:55
In the mean time it has been decided J-509 will get a few more hours. The last flight will be anywhere soon.
Thx Zonan, but I did not get the final verdict from Theo so I will keep it in the list until its confirmed.
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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JPS wrote: 02 Oct 2022, 17:32
Zonan wrote: 02 Oct 2022, 17:18 J-509 is wfu since 15-08-2022
Theo van den Boomen wrote: 26 Aug 2022, 21:55
In the mean time it has been decided J-509 will get a few more hours. The last flight will be anywhere soon.
Thx Zonan, but I did not get the final verdict from Theo so I will keep it in the list until its confirmed.
Although I am not Theo, J-509 has flown her last flight indeed on Sept 6th.
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Thx Joost for the final flight date, much appreciated!
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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J-644 fini flight was at monday 24 okt.
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Re: Operational Dutch F-16's

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Many thanks for the updates.

Both J-509 and J-644 were withdrawn for use leaving 27 operational F-16's with 312sq. Being withdrawn from use does not mean that they will not fly anymore, the J-144 for example made a test flight on October 18th, 6 months after being wfu.

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J-144 returning to Volkel after a testflight on 18-10-2022 by Kees Backx on Facebook

With Draken International having an option on another 28 F-16's it could be that in addition to the last operational F-16's a selection of wfu aircraft are kept in flying condition.

Please find below the October 2022 list with the updates in red:

Volkel 312sq (27 x F-16AM)
J-003 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 21jul2022
J-005 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-006 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-008 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-011 F-16AM 312sq no badge and tailband 2022
J-013 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-014 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-015 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-016 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-017 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 30aug2022
J-020 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-021 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-055 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and partial toned down North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-060 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-062 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
J-063 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and toned down North Brabantian tailband + 'MiG-29 kill' left side 2022
J-136 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-146 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-197 F-16AM 312sq 70 years 312sq tail special c/s 2022 SABCA Charleroi 19sep2022
J-201 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-367 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-508 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-512 F-16AM 312sq full color badge and no tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 26apr2022
J-514 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022 SABCA Charleroi 11aug2022
J-515 F-16AM 312sq full colour badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022 LCW Woensdrecht 23feb2022
J-516 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and no tailband 2022
J-641 F-16AM 312sq toned down badge and North Brabantian tailband 2022
Last edited by JPS on 03 Nov 2023, 20:26, edited 2 times in total.
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