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Elmer which email address did you use to get your photos removed? (I used the contact form on the website, but I'm not sure whether the right person will receive this)
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I think there is still time to think it over, nearly a month if I read it well, seems it will start at the 8th of march. And till this time you can get your pictures of the site. But if this TOU stays the way it is now I will get my pictures of too, of course.
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Delta12 wrote:But I dont want to be too late
I just mean that waiting one day is useless. Nothing will change in that one day. Unless you mean your own opinion may change, in which case I withdraw my remarks! :wink:
I fail to see the connection to your watermark-remark: 1) that is to keep people outside A.net * from using your photo and 2) you can always re-upload with a stronger one.

* First Class members, crew and certainly DM see your photo without the watermark.

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On the forum of Airliners it states support@airliners.net to get your pictures removed.
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Key wrote:
Delta12 wrote:
I'd always tought that watermarks was for everyone..
In that case... they're going ;)
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The new ToU have just been removed from A.net and the old ones are displayed again, with an extra text. There may be hope for the site.

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DJdeRidder wrote:Elmer which email address did you use to get your photos removed? (I used the contact form on the website, but I'm not sure whether the right person will receive this)
Ik heb idd een mailtje naar support@airliners.net gestuurd en moest er vervolgens eentje sturen naar de editor en daarna nog eentje van de database-editor (of zoiets, whatever). In de replies vroeg airliners.net of ik alsjeblieft, please please please please please please mijn foto's niet wilde verwijderen want ik was toch zo'n gewaardeerde fotograaf en die foto's waren zo helemaal te gek uniek én maakten airliners.net tot zo'n fantastische site blablabladiebladiebla.

Wel jammer dat die smeekbedes gewoon ingevulde sjabloontjes waren. Dat is precies wat me zo ging tegen staan aan die site.
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Zou je dat smeek dinges is willen posten hier. Ik wil hun nou ook wel is horen smeken zoals wij altijd smeken om acceptance voor onze fotos. :twisted:

Ik wacht nog ff met mailen.. maar ik heb hem al wel klaar staan als opgeslagen onderwerp.
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Dat lijkt me eerlijk gezegd niet zo nuttig. Deze draad gaat over de ontwikkelingen, niet over een soort leedvermaak. En smeken voor acceptance kan ik me al helemaal niets bij voorstellen trouwens.
Probeer maar even hoop te houden, want toen je 767 de hit was, was je maar al te blij met A.net. 8)
evhest wrote:Wel jammer dat die smeekbedes gewoon ingevulde sjabloontjes waren. Dat is precies wat me zo ging tegen staan aan die site.
Wat verwacht je anders van een site met tachtig miljoen hits per dag..? Los daarvan is het natuurlijk je goed recht om daar niet van te houden!

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Hi Guys

The TOU was a huge mistake. It was rushed and just copied from one of their other websites and thus not tailored to a.net with its photographers.

The TOU is now pulled and it will be rewritten to garanty the rights of the photographers.

It was not their intention to suggest you would lose your rights by uploading to a.net, that would of course be ridiculous and unacceptable. Unfortunately that's what the TOU implied so I understand all the anger. The new rules will be rewritten with input from the crew and community to make it acceptable for all photographers.

Let's wait for the new TOU. If you don't like it then you can always leave.

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Ok Tim, thanx for your reaction on this :!:
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[quote="Key"][/quote]

Nee oke, dat is niet netjes.

Tuurlijk was ik blij met airliners.net om die foto toen. Maar het werd me echt iets te gortig met deze Terms Of Use. En daar was ik kwaad over.


@ Tim, does that mean that the deadline for having your photos removed has been postponed too ? until to new TOU is written?
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Yes, until the new terms are up you don't have to sign or agree to anything.

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Ha,

Ben geen fotograaf maar vind dit proces wel interessant.

Het is een beproefde methode om met een 'proefballon' een wijziging aan te kondigen. Even proeven hoe ver de loyaliteit gaat. Zometeen komen de, definitieve, nieuwe TOU's uit en dan lijkt 'het mee te vallen' en worden ze als zoete koek geslikt.

Doen ze goed!

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Stefan wrote:Het is een beproefde methode om met een 'proefballon' een wijziging aan te kondigen.
Daar heeft het inderdaad veel van weg. Bovendien:
It was rushed and just copied from one of their other websites and thus not tailored
Een goed bedrijf doet deze achteloze haast haar leveranciers niet aan. Bovendien zeggen ze nu zelf dat deze regels op een van de andere sites wél worden gehanteerd. Iets om bij stil te staan...
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