Crazy Czech Trip Day 3 22-5-2009 (Kbely Part)

[Vulture One]

Afternoon Dave,

I would have to be very sure of my source before claiming that one and would prefer photo evidence which is as likely as ever clearing a Czech base. The fact that it appeared complete whereas I believe the other two are dismantled also has a bearing.

There are apparently two PF models - thinner fin cross-section but with thicker spine for about 8 ft - that have not been seen for many years. They are 1305 and 1309 I believe. I presume this one had the forward hinging single piece canopy? All four known F-13 models were visible between gate guard, Hall C and two on taxiway. Unless another F-13 has arrived - with Kbely it is anyone's guess as visits to storage area are few and far between. I was twice told by the Museum formally before going out that storage area visits are just not entertained.

Not sure I am not pleased I missed that one as it would just have added to the frustration that is Czech storage areas.

Regards
Rick

[perry dirkx]

Gents,

I visited the Kbely museum in the same time twice, and had a good look at the storage.
The first time was on Thursday May 21st from the other side of the airfield.

Group on the right, this is behind Hall C when looking trom the other side:
Li-2D (2710)/09
Avia/Il-14 0603, 6102, OK-MCI
Il-18 OK-NAA
Il-28 2107, 2303
MiG-15UTI OK-010
MiG-21 0302, 0313, 1013 (blue/green c/s), 0948 +2
MiG-23ML 2406
Mi-8T 0819
Tu-104 OK-LDA
Yak-40 OK-BYG/0723

Further to the left were 2 MiG-23s: 9831 and 5735,
MiG-21MF 2410 (big 9 on the tail)
and at least 3 heavy covered MiG-21s: 4405 +2 (UM 9332 one of those?)
Mi-2 OK-RUV (blue c/s)
two covered L-29s (41 one of those?)
one covered L-39
and MiG-17PF 0101

In a more hidden compound seen from this side were at least 3 L-39s,
one L-39C (V-VS c/s) and two white/yellow L-39V's: 0725 +1,
one L-410 in a green/brown c/s
and some MiG-15/17/19s
This must be the compound to your right when entering the museum.

The second visit was on Wednesday May 27th, from the inside of the museum I noted the folowing stored ac:
Shed near the road: Mi-1 6014, Mi-2 B-2047, An-2 OK-KIS (yellow) +1
Behind outside display: Mi-1 1005, Mi-8PS 0830, Soko522 23500/123 (JRV)

On Airfield behind Hall C:
An-24V 2904
Avia/IL-14 0603, 6102, OK-MCI
Il-18V OK-NAA
Il-28 2107, 2303
Li-2D (2710)/09
MiG-15UTI 2611, OK-010
Row MiG-21s 4916, 4609, 0313, 1013 (blue/Green c/s), 0948, 0302
MiG-23ML 2406
Mi-8T 0819
XL-39 (OK-182)
Yak-40 OK-BYG/0723

Compound on right when entering museum:
MiG-15SB 1186
MiG-15UTI ?
+1 MiG-15
MiG-19P (0742)
MiG-19S (1006)
MiG-21UM 3181
MiG-21PFM ?
Mi-4A 2143
Mi-4 (0751)
Mi-8T 1232
L-29 0003
L-39V 0740 +1 (= 0725 read from other side)
L-39C 33 white (330207) V-VS c/s
+1 L-39
Su-7BKL 5919, 6428
Su-7UM 1017

Numbers between () are not read by myself

We realy need a tour here

Cheers,
Perry

[perry dirkx]

Hi,

An unexpected visit on Sunday June 21st at the Kbely museum again with some friends did reveal the folowing (new) items:

Soko 522 23500/123 moved from its spot behind the outside display/in front of the wooden shed to a place on the airfield behind Hall C
and Mi-8PS 0830 moved from aprox the same spot to a place inbetween the Draken and Viggen at the outside display.
This all, in my opinion, to move something out of the wooden shed.
This could have been Belgian Meteor F.8 EG247/SV-D that is now on display in Hall B with the T-33, Vampire, Me262A and Yak-17.

To my supprise it was possible to walk in front of the storage compound on the right after entering the museum to the new Hall "1939-1945". Inside were:
MS.230 1077 Adl'A
La-7 45210860/77white, V-VS c/s, ex SU-60 Czech AF
Li-2F 23443002/7, V-VS c/s, ex 3002 Czech AF
Tiger Moth "R5148/35", realy PG627
AT-16ND FT422, ex KLu B-67
Il-2M3 12438/38white, V-VS
CSS-13 SP-BHA
Me.262B-1a/CS-92 (V-35)/A, Luftwaffe c/s

Due to the opening of this new hall and the walkway to it, it was possible to read off all but one aircraft stored in the compound:
MiG-15bis 3941
MiG-15SB 1186
MiG-15SB 1713
MiG-15UTI 2744/OK-10
MiG-19P (0742)
MiG-19S 1006
MiG-21UM 3181
MiG-21U-600 2820 (..20 read)
Mi-4A 2143
Mi-4 0751
Mi-8T 1232
L-29 0003
L-39V 0725
L-39V 0740
L-39V 3908
L-39C 33 white (330207) V-VS
Su-7BKL 5919
Su-7BKL 6428
Su-7UM 1017
XL-410 OK-176/OK-20

Cheers,
Perry