Logs and news on European airfields outside the Benelux, Germany, Ireland and the UK.
AMC
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by AMC » 02 Oct 2009, 12:45
E. Schoonderwoerd wrote: Can anyone (and willing) to share us the spotting possibilities rwy 18?
And how about spotting at/near the fence at rwy 36. Will the gendarmerie give you problems? From the air there are no buildings visible at rwy 36 so taking photos of the infrastructure won't give you a problem.
Thanks for sharing the information with me/us.
Emile
On both sides no problem to take pics. The best to take no pics from buildings. Perhaps the police check your passport.
Patrick Moonen
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by Patrick Moonen » 02 Oct 2009, 12:49
Hey,
We went to Dijon yesterday to see the Saudi Eagles. The Police did a id check and even during the check we were allowed to make pictures from the aircraft.
They expected 2 more C-130's but we left at 18.00 because some of us had to work the next day.
1-10-2009 Dijon Longvic
E26 102-ND Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E29 102-NB Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E33 2-FJ Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E87 102-LC Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E127 2-FK Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E140 2-FA Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E151 2-FD Alpha Jet EE 05.002
R210 64-GJ C.160R ET 064
071 62-IE CN.235M-200 ET 03.062
F-HCTE DA.42 SEFA
41 102-FZ Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
47 102-EP Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
66 102-EO Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
67 102-MH Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
74 102-MK Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
314 4-AX Mirage 2000N EC 01.004
359 4-AK Mirage 2000N EC 01.004
1165 DCT/16 SA.330BA 1 RHC
473 ٤٧٣ C-130H 4 Sqn
HZ-132 L.100-30 Saudi Arabian
501 ٥٠١ F-15C 5 Sqn
505 ٥٠٥ F-15C 5 Sqn
506 ٥٠٦ F-15C 5 Sqn
510 ٥١٠ F-15C 5 Sqn
512 ٥١٢ F-15C 5 Sqn
533 ٥٣٣ F-15D 5 Sqn
Patrick
Wijgert IJlst
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by Wijgert IJlst » 02 Oct 2009, 17:06
Cool! Do you know if the Saudi transport planes have left or do they stay also?
Kind Regards / Groeten,
Wijgert IJlst
Martin Uleman
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by Martin Uleman » 02 Oct 2009, 21:44
Patrick Moonen wrote: Hey,
We went to Dijon yesterday to see the Saudi Eagles. The Police did a id check and even during the check we were allowed to make pictures from the aircraft.
They expected 2 more C-130's but we left at 18.00 because some of us had to work the next day.
1-10-2009 Dijon Longvic
E26 102-ND Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E29 102-NB Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E33 2-FJ Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E87 102-LC Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E127 2-FK Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E140 2-FA Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E151 2-FD Alpha Jet EE 05.002
R210 64-GJ C.160R ET 064
071 62-IE CN.235M-200 ET 03.062
F-HCTE DA.42 SEFA
41 102-FZ Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
47 102-EP Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
66 102-EO Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
67 102-MH Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
74 102-MK Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
314 4-AX Mirage 2000N EC 01.004
359 4-AK Mirage 2000N EC 01.004
1165 DCT/16 SA.330BA 1 RHC
473 ٤٧٣ C-130H 4 Sqn
HZ-132 L.100-30 Saudi Arabian
501 ٥٠١ F-15C 5 Sqn
505 ٥٠٥ F-15C 5 Sqn
506 ٥٠٦ F-15C 5 Sqn
510 ٥١٠ F-15C 5 Sqn
512 ٥١٢ F-15C 5 Sqn
533 ٥٣٣ F-15D 5 Sqn
Patrick
Hi Patrick,
Thanks for the log from yesterday.
Just curious, how did you manage the serial of the puma?
We where there also but the puma was very, very high.
Regards Steve.
Arjan
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by Arjan » 02 Oct 2009, 22:04
This puma has also been seen last month at the Phalsbourg airshow. Code and serial are correct!
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Eric van Lisdonk
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by Eric van Lisdonk » 03 Oct 2009, 11:54
Puma was read of with the 40x60 spottingscope. And confirmed on picture by another Team from Volkel.
Was a nice day. But it looks like that nobody read of the AS.555 which also arrived.
The spottingfacilities are great here. It's a shame that this base is closing down very soon.
The best place to spot is in the place Ouges and ride to the street Rue des Mirages.
From here you can make nice desent shots.
Cheers,
Eric
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by Stafhunter » 03 Oct 2009, 12:08
Eric van Lisdonk wrote: Puma was read of with the 40x60 spottingscope. And confirmed on picture by another Team from Volkel.
Was a nice day. But it looks like that nobody read of the AS.555 which also arrived.
The spottingfacilities are great here. It's a shame that this base is closing down very soon.
The best place to spot is in the place Ouges and ride to the street Rue des Mirages.
From here you can make nice desent shots.
Cheers,
Eric
and did you have make nice shot's
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Tintin
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by Tintin » 03 Oct 2009, 13:05
Eric van Lisdonk wrote:
The spottingfacilities are great here. It's a shame that this base is closing down very soon.
Cheers,
Eric
And can I know where you had the info about closure of BA 102 ???
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Patrick Moonen
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by Patrick Moonen » 03 Oct 2009, 13:21
The Gendarmerie AS.350 was red off by the same Volkel team as JCF.
Patrick
Eric van Lisdonk wrote: Puma was read of with the 40x60 spottingscope. And confirmed on picture by another Team from Volkel.
Was a nice day. But it looks like that nobody read of the AS.555 which also arrived.
Joris van Boven
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by Joris van Boven » 04 Oct 2009, 20:20
Tintin wrote: Eric van Lisdonk wrote:
The spottingfacilities are great here. It's a shame that this base is closing down very soon.
Cheers,
Eric
And can I know where you had the info about closure of BA 102 ???
Dijon will not close, only the flying aircraft will disappear
It remain open a a diversion base, just like Orange.
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by Joris van Boven » 04 Oct 2009, 20:23
It came to my mind as a very strange coincidence
-Saoudi F-15s in Europe (Dijon)
-Israeli F-15s in Europe (Deci)
all in the same timeframe
Is there a change that they will meet for a (mock) dogfight overhead the Mediterranean Sea these 2 weeks
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by Coati » 04 Oct 2009, 20:50
I do not see anything else than a coincidence. I would rule out the possibility of any mock dog fight. Why should they dogfight with each other, they are potential enemies, remember? They are guests in different countries and some distance apart.
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by r.e.hendriks » 05 Oct 2009, 18:01
Hi all,
Here a live log from Dijon..... (05 oct 2009)
E9 102-LF Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E26 102-ND Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E29 102-NB Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E87 102-LC Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E105 102-FM Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E127 2-FK Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E140 2-FA Alpha Jet EE 05.002
E151 2-FD Alpha Jet EE 05.002
41 102-FZ Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
56 102-EG Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
58 102-EL Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
71 102-EE Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
74 102-MK Mirage 2000-5 GC 01.002
326 4-AS Mirage 2000N EC 01.004
351 4-AQ Mirage 2000N EC 01.004
2057/JCQ AS.350 Gendarmerie
..../GEA SA.342M
..../GBP SA.342M
501 ٥٠١ F-15C 5 Sqn didn't fly
505 ٥٠٥ F-15C 5 Sqn didn't fly
506 ٥٠٦ F-15C 5 Sqn
510 ٥١٠ F-15C 5 Sqn
512 ٥١٢ F-15C 5 Sqn
533 ٥٣٣ F-15D 5 Sqn
14/13-PW Mirage 5F Preserved
SKY-479 H-34A Preserved
226/HF MH.1521M Preserved
??? Mirage III Preserved near fire department (anyone???)
We had an ID-check by two very friendly Gendarmes. No problem, all day long!!!
Best regards,
Rob Hendriks
Mike Schoenmaker
Niels Hoogenboom
Arjan
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by Arjan » 05 Oct 2009, 18:14
Very happy to read and to hear that the Gendarmerie is co-operative and friendly. Hope we are able to keep it this way!
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Tintin
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by Tintin » 05 Oct 2009, 19:55
Joris van Boven wrote:
Dijon will not close, only the flying aircraft will disappear
It remain open a a diversion base, just like Orange.
You're right Joris,
Alphajets of 5/2 and Mirages 2000-5 of 1/2 could be transferred to Luxeuil from 2011.
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