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Iwan Bogels wrote:Hi Bas,Boudewijn van Oirschot wrote:No of course he is not god. He is just a very good photographer, probably one of the best of this board. And I am also not stating that you are copy his photography behavior as I mentioned that there are also photographers with its own creativity.
About the equipment, of course it always depends on the fotographer. But I don't have a 500MM lens, so I cannot take some pictures he takes. And that counts for more spotters here. Otherwise, not meaning that it really matters.. at least not for me.
Martijn has broken the invisible boundries of civil aviation photography. Until his arrival here at Scramble "collection shots" were standard within the civil aviation community. Martijn obviously has a passion for photography, and his favorite subject seems to be aviation & nature (combined if possible). Next to that he has "the Eye" to see beauty, where most of us were blinded by shooting rarity rather than beauty.
By now you see two groups of people breaking out of the traditional box: People who love Nusty's work and try if they can make a similar shot for their own collection, and people who have seen "the light" and dare to be creative in their own way. I know it's a thin line, but at least Martijn's work has been an eye-opener to several people who got stuck in the traditional hobby. So, well done Nusty !
As for Nusty's equipment, if I'm not mistaking he has been using a 5D and/or 1D in combination with a fixed 500mm lens. This will give him either 500 or 650 mm when you consider the cropfactor of the cameras. Most of us at this forum use cameras with 1.5 or 1.6 cropfactors, so if you have a 400mm lens you have the equivalent of a 600 / 640 mm lens. This means that Nusty doesn't have more reach than people with 80-400 or 100-400 lenses. The only difference is that the 500 prime provides just a bit higher quality in sharpness than the zooms do. I think this means that the creative restriction is just in your mind, and you just need to try harder to make it show.
Hope this helps you improve yourself even further.
Cheers.
Iwan
Nonsense, and you know it. I know you do.ErwinS wrote:The Cub.
edit. removed since this photo forum is no longer for special visitors.
Discussions and observations are made by many, the decision to remove your photo(s) just by you.Vincent wrote:Removed due to useless discussion, always the same story here last couple of months
Hmm... sounds familiarwild weasel wrote: aviation photography and aviation photography
Why should there be a separate forum? What is so hard about indicating in a topic title what the topic is about? That's what they invented titles for, isn't it..? For example, think of 'Schiphol regulars in fog 11 December' in stead of 'EHAM/AMS 11-12-10'. Just my € 0.02.wild weasel wrote:If scramble will open a new specific Forum for "our" kind of photography, i will be more then willing to move over there, but there simply isn't any.ErwinS wrote:These artistic shots of everyday visitors should be posted elsewhere imo.
Points taken Erik but above point you mentioned is what I meant.Key wrote:Meanwhile, I must stress that Scramble's main interest is still spotting
Erik
Erik, this is the answer, everyone's happy... It's so easy... Leave the "EHAM Schiphol 12-12-2010" topic for the spotter kind of shots, like rare stuff and make a more specific one for shots like we see the last few months.Key wrote: That's what they invented titles for, isn't it..? For example, think of 'Schiphol regulars in fog 11 December' in stead of 'EHAM/AMS 11-12-10'. Just my € 0.02
Erik
Iwan Bogels wrote:Hi Bas,Boudewijn van Oirschot wrote:No of course he is not god. He is just a very good photographer, probably one of the best of this board. And I am also not stating that you are copy his photography behavior as I mentioned that there are also photographers with its own creativity.
About the equipment, of course it always depends on the fotographer. But I don't have a 500MM lens, so I cannot take some pictures he takes. And that counts for more spotters here. Otherwise, not meaning that it really matters.. at least not for me.
Martijn has broken the invisible boundries of civil aviation photography. Until his arrival here at Scramble "collection shots" were standard within the civil aviation community. Martijn obviously has a passion for photography, and his favorite subject seems to be aviation & nature (combined if possible). Next to that he has "the Eye" to see beauty, where most of us were blinded by shooting rarity rather than beauty.
By now you see two groups of people breaking out of the traditional box: People who love Nusty's work and try if they can make a similar shot for their own collection, and people who have seen "the light" and dare to be creative in their own way. I know it's a thin line, but at least Martijn's work has been an eye-opener to several people who got stuck in the traditional hobby. So, well done Nusty !
As for Nusty's equipment, if I'm not mistaking he has been using a 5D and/or 1D in combination with a fixed 500mm lens. This will give him either 500 or 650 mm when you consider the cropfactor of the cameras. Most of us at this forum use cameras with 1.5 or 1.6 cropfactors, so if you have a 400mm lens you have the equivalent of a 600 / 640 mm lens. This means that Nusty doesn't have more reach than people with 80-400 or 100-400 lenses. The only difference is that the 500 prime provides just a bit higher quality in sharpness than the zooms do. I think this means that the creative restriction is just in your mind, and you just need to try harder to make it show.
Hope this helps you improve yourself even further.
Cheers.
Iwan
+2 from me like others said before its not the equipment that makes a good photo's i should know it took me five years to get the most out of my camera.Andras wrote:Erik, this is the answer, everyone's happy... It's so easy... Leave the "EHAM Schiphol 12-12-2010" topic for the spotter kind of shots, like rare stuff and make a more specific one for shots like we see the last few months.Key wrote: That's what they invented titles for, isn't it..? For example, think of 'Schiphol regulars in fog 11 December' in stead of 'EHAM/AMS 11-12-10'. Just my € 0.02
Erik
-In general-, one comment about the "Nusty-fication", it just a bunch of horse-==censored== that if someone shoots a "different then a spotter kind of picture, that it is a "Nusty" shot, in fact, that really makes my hair stand up straight. Everyone can shoot pictures like that, just put in the same time as Martijn does. (or who-ever standing at Schiphol, Gilze or which ever field or spot near a field almost every live long day). It is just a matter of using your creative imagination. I agree with Iwan on the creative eye part of Martijn, but just ask him and he will tell you he is actually "king of crop" which is also a big part of 'creating' an image, and not making. But who doesn't do that ocassionally?
Really, stop thinking you can only do photography with the most expensive and best cameras and lenses that money can buy. There are lots of examples around that show the opposite. It will however make your life more easy if you know how to handle it. (And there are a lot of people around that start to known how to use their camera's....
In the end, if you don't like it, don't watch it. And don't expect anything. Have fun!
Greetz,
Stubenfliege 2 wrote:Hi ya.
The reason why I have joined this forum is the tendency to post exactly these "artistic shots of everyday visitors":
I have learned here the opportunities of an taking off KLM 777 in realy bad weather (or in Hamburg a Lufthansel 737). I have seen this a/c a thousand times, but there is always the change of a new angle....If everybody is bored by the result, I have done it not in a good way.
In my "home forum" often the "corner to corner, mainwheel over mainwheel pictures in perfect light" faction rules. The result of a massive appereance of these "perfect shots" of "special visitors" (especially if you be a visitor on the foreign soil, where nearly every a/c is a special for you) is in my point of view is boredom, too. Therefore I really appreciate this kind of "artistic shots of everyday visitors".
In my opinion is upfront selection of the posted pictures is in this regard more cruical then the used equipment.
Regards,
Christian
Well said Ripper! and Christian, supertoll-affentieten-sauber gesagt! guess the "naming the right topic" will do everyone a big favor!+2 from me like others said before its not the equipment that makes a good photo's i should know it took me five years to get the most out of my camera.
A good lens surely would help but is not always necessary, knowing your equipment is!!
Thanks to some people that i have met trough this and other sites people like Iwan , Roel and Andras for example benefited to better photography and results.
So keep on sharing your experience and shots.
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