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http://www.network54.com/Forum/248068/t ... 1/T-38+ARIP.Terlouw wrote:The only upgraded T-38M was the 38321 at the static as indicated by the two new antenna's (top fuselage and behind nosegear) and the new ejection seats. At Cigli it was also very easy to know because the sign in front of this airplane was from TAI who upgrades these aircraft. The red/white 38173 is in my opinion just a one-off special scheme.KIER wrote:Strange story about the T-38M, as the first updated T-38 must be 38173, wich was also at the static , but delivered in a grey/black colorscheme.
But I think the antenna on the fuselage of the 38321, is one of the updates. So it than is a T-38M, and the 38173 does not have that antenna.
Kier
Could I ask you where this info comes from? I spoke with the crew of 38173, and they told me it was an upgraded aircraft and that all aircraft that are getting the upgrade will recieve the new rd/wh c/s like this one had!The only upgraded T-38M was the 38321 at the static as indicated by the two new antenna's (top fuselage and behind nosegear), installation of a HUD and the new ejection seats. At Cigli it was also very easy to know because the sign in front of this airplane was from TAI who upgrades these aircraft. The red/white 38173 is in my opinion just a one-off special scheme and before that used as demonstrator for the upgrade program.
This info comes from a senior instructor pilot I spoke to, who said they didn't like the dark grey TAI upgrade demonstrator and will remain flying all T-38's in their white scheme. Again, the 38173 is not a fully upgraded T-38 as it lacks the avionics pack, new HUD and new ejection seats and I doubt it had the glass cockpit. The other (38321) had clearly shielded its new cockpit against the elements and other updates clearly visible. Also see the the other all-white upgraded T-38M 38231 in the phototopic.patrick dirksen wrote:Could I ask you where this info comes from? I spoke with the crew of 38173, and they told me it was an upgraded aircraft and that all aircraft that are getting the upgrade will recieve the new rd/wh c/s like this one had!The only upgraded T-38M was the 38321 at the static as indicated by the two new antenna's (top fuselage and behind nosegear), installation of a HUD and the new ejection seats. At Cigli it was also very easy to know because the sign in front of this airplane was from TAI who upgrades these aircraft. The red/white 38173 is in my opinion just a one-off special scheme and before that used as demonstrator for the upgrade program.
ehusmann wrote:The previous ones CANNOT be the correct ones, as those had 6 C and 2 D serials, while all 8 at Izmir were C models.
In this case I would like to know the source, how did they get the serials? And is there a tie-up with the codes?
Erwin
Erwin, which of the above 8 are according to you a D model???r.e.hendriks wrote:
> 91-0392
> 92-3880
> 92-3881
> 92-3888
> 92-3890
> 92-3896
> 92-3898
> 92-3908
Quoting from MSF:ehusmann wrote: In this case I would like to know the source, how did they get the serials? And is there a tie-up with the codes?
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