LOG LGGG Athens 2014 (via LiveATC)

[minotaur]

For the 12th of February, TUSKER24 verified visually as CN.235, 66043

[ebauer]

For the 12th of January, TUSKER24 verified visually as CN.235, 66043

Most likely TUSKR

[Robin]

The maximum number of characters on a standard (ICAO including the military) Flight Plan is SEVEN; normally this consist of FIVE letters and TWO numbers.

Hence in this case the ATC Flight Plan callsign was "TUSKR24"

However the ATC & pilot voice callsign would be "TUSKER24"

[minotaur]

Thanks for the clarification Robin. I 've indeed written down what I've heard. And this goes to verify the mysterious TUSKR callsign in Wolbie's list.
My actual big mistake was on the date. I meant February not January. So I edit.

[Robin]

Further to my last.....i.e.

The maximum number of characters on a standard (ICAO including the military) Flight Plan is SEVEN; normally this consist of FIVE letters and TWO numbers.

Hence in this case the ATC Flight Plan callsign was "TUSKR24"....However the ATC & pilot voice callsign would be "TUSKER24"

Confusion sometimes occur as the pilots or ATC sometimes read out Phonetically the five letter abbreviation. This often occurs when the pilot thinks the Air Traffic Controller, may not know his full callsign from the abbreviation on his flight plan.

Addition to the above
In the UK along with most of the northern Europe ATC, the full callsign is printed out along with the abbreviation (on the flight strip or the electronic computer readout displayed). However in some of the south countries only the abbreviation is still displayed.

Sometimes it is clear from the abbreviation (on flight plan) what the full callsign (civil or military) is, other are not, and not all European and American use the same abbreviation methods.

i.e. the Swedish only use four letters i.e "FOXX" callsign is "FOX":
other Europe AF examples are "BDROCK" is "BEDROCK"; "MOONBEAM" is "MOONB" (but could be confused with other type callsign i.e. "MOON BRAVO" etc
In fact in some cases in Europe, some five letter air force abbreviation is spelt differently!!!!!
lastly then there is some pilots who use no-standard five letter abbreviations.... hence on SBS some abbreviations vary for the same callsign.....

Hope that I have not confuse anyone....

[minotaur]

No confusion, at least for me. I don't disagree with TUSKR actually. The point of my first contribution was to clarify that TUSKR was an american CN.235 and not a Canadian aircraft (as originally listed) and my second to verify that the aircraft under this callsign these days is 66043.
I am a photo spotter anyway and sorry if my poor knowledge confused the radio experts and mislead the conversation.

[Wolbie]

February 17th LGGG:
07.18 VDA6599 (IL-76TD RA-76952 Volga Dnepr) exitpoint TIGRA. 07.39 Athens 134.325, FL320.
07.54 AGILE71 (C-32B 02-4452 150 SOS) continue climb FL380. 08.25 Brindisi 128.3
07.56 RCH705 (C-17A 07-7179 60 AMW) contact Athens Radar 135.875
07.57 RCH325 (C-17A 00-0175 62 AW) contact Cairo 127.7
08.38 CNV4065 (C-40A 166695 VR-56) FL380, sq 7033. Confirm dest LGSA? From METRU dir PLH. 08.45 descend FL270, expect lower by PLH.
08.48 VVPD323 (P-3C 161594? USN) passing 167 for FL210, 20NM W of OTREX, final FL210. Resume to SITIA, KAVOS. 09.06 req-> climb FL230. 09.36 contact Nicosia 124.2
09.49 RCH552 (C-17A 08-8201 62 AW) FL350. 10.23 Cairo 127.7
10.17 RCH953 (C-17A 08-0183 62 AW) app ANTAR FL340, follow FP route. 10.19 req-> climb FL360. 11.02 Makedonia 133.575
10/19 CNV4084 (C-40A USN) climb FL300, req-> continue climb FL380. 10.24 contact [Athens] 135.875. 11.04 contact Brindisi 128.3

(all times GMT/zulu)

[Wolbie]

February 18th LGGG:
06.41 ALEX12 (F-16 111 PM SMET?) FL120
06.52 ABNET28 (RC-135W 62-4130 55 WG) passing 140 for 210, continue climb final FL330. 07.01 after PAXIS cleared IFR and proceeding due regard FL325. 07.16 switch Cairo 127.7
08.01 FRA72 (Falcon 20 Cobham) continue climb FL240, final FL280. Climb FL260, 08.04 Athens 134.325.
08.41 VVPD323 (P-3C 161594 USN) after ARLOS M1 to SITIA, continue M1 to KAVOS, then VFR. 09.12 Athens 125.2, FL230 dir SIT. 09.26 cancelling IFR at this time,
proceed operational VFR due regard FL235. VFR operational for app 6.00 hours. When passing KAVOS contact Nicosia. 09.48 Nicosia 124.2.
09.03 S177 (C-32A 99-0004 1 AS) checking in 20M from METRU, sq 1730. Cleared dir ARLOS. 09.23 contact Malta 122.775
09.49 BAF658 (C-130H CH-03 20 Sm) contact Athens APP 132.975.

(all times GMT/zulu)

[Wolbie]

February 19th LGGG:
06.39 N91S (BE90 N91S Dynamic Aviation) climbing through FL100 for FL230. 07.15 contact Cairo 127.7
07.18 RSF901 (C-130H 1624 RSAF) report over TANSA. 07.24 reset sq 7071, follow SITIA 2A arr. 07.32 Descend FL140. 07.35 Heraklion 123.975.
08.05 RCH781 (KC-10A 83-0079 305 AMW) radarcontact FL370.
08.06 GOLD22 (KC-10A 87-0118 305 AMW) passing 194 for FL240, sq 2021. 10M NE of PLH, req FL340. Climb FL300. 08.09 Climb FL340. 08.43 Roma 133.250
08.30 CNV6803 (C-9B 160050 VR-61) radarcontact FL350, cleared to Souda. Proceed PLH and then Souda. 08.41 Follow PLH 2F arr to Souda. 08.47 contact Souda 118.125, reaching FL130 and maintain.
09.00 RSF901 (C-130H 1624 RSAF) passing 6700ft for FL180. 09.15 contact Athens APP 132.975.
09.11 HZMF2 (B737 HZ-MF2 Saudi Gvt) FL360, sq 5523, proceed dir to TUMBO. 15NM NW of TANSA.
10.30 RCH954 (C-17A 01-0189 437 AW) sq 1451. 11.12 Makedonia 132.375.
10.30 CNV6803 (C-9B 160050 VR-61) passing 150 for FL170, request final FL350. Continue climb FL290. 10.32 Resume navigation to IRA,
continue climb FL310. 10.33 Fly dir SOTIV. 10.37 Continue climb FL350. 10.57 contact Izmir 127.525.
10.33 DUKE40 (UC-35A 97-0102 52nd AVN) request descend. Descend FL260. 10.37 Continue descend FL180. 10.40 Athens APP 132.975.
10.37 AME3109 (C-130H T.10-04? Ala 31) climb FL200. 1102 contact Athens 134.325
11.18 KAF3200 (C-17A KAF342 Kuwait AF) (from EGUN) sq 3314, radarcontact FL180. Fly from present position to SOREV, for SOREV 1B arr. 11.40 new sq 7441. 12.06 app SOREV, contact Athens APP 132.975.
11.37 LHOB243 (C-17A A7-MAE QEAF) FL330 position ARLOS, proceed dir to SALUN.
11.38 RCH719 (C-17A 03-3120 62 AW) FL210, radarcontact over MES. 12.13 contact Cairo 127.7
11.43 ASF01 (C-130K 8T-CB LTS) radarcontact. 12.07 fly dir TOSKA. 12.37 contact Nicosia 125.5
11.47 RSF2401 (A330-MRTT 2401 24 Sq) Cairo 127.7
11.56 IAM4670 (C-27J? 46 BA) radarcontact FL250. 12.40 fly dir DBA due to Cairo request, contact Cairo 124.7
12.12 RSF2403 (A330-MRTT 2403 24 Sq) Cairo 127.7
13.15 LHOB242 (C-17A A7-MAC QEAF) sq 5516. 13.48 contact 135.875.
13.21 BAH6 (G550 A9C-BRN Bahrain Amiri Flt) climb FL430, fly dir SALUN.
13.46 CNV6803 (C-9B 160050 VR-61) sq 2341, radarcontact FL340, fly dir RIPLI.

[Wolbie]

February 20th LGGG:
07.01 RCH485 (C-17A 00-0180 62 AW) Nicosia 124.2.
07.17 QID93 (KC-135R 84-14830 351 ARS) FL350, follow FP route, exitpoint ARLOS. 07.31 request-> descend FL210. Recycle sq 2046. 07.39 passing point EBOKA. 07.45 contact Malta 122.775
07.20 AGIOS15 (? HAF) FL150 sq 7046, app EXONI, for further contact Tanagra APP.
07.25 RAMA21 (B-1B USAF) FL220. sq 2032, maintain FL220. 07.43 contact Malta 122.775
07.39 AGIOS17 (? HAF) FL190, due to Tanagra request descend FL130, contact Tanagra APP 120.250
07.40 AGIOS16 (? HAF) 07.41 contact Souda Bay. 08.07 contact Kalamata 120.750.
08.00 PERSEUS L (F-16 347 Mira) 08.06 Andravida APP 121.125
08.08 JGZ54 (C-130H 744 356 MTM) radarcontact reach and maintain FL200, via FP route.
08.08 AGIOS?15 (? HAF) destination Araxos, sq 7046. 08.11 Andravida APP 121.125.
08.21 CNV4702 (C-40A 165830 VR-59) FL390 sq 3721 radarcontact, after ARLOS proceed to SALUN.
08.23 RCH251 (KC-135R 59-1462 92 ARW) FL390 sq 0206 radarcontact, after ARLOS proceed to SALUN.
08.24 AGIOS17 (? HAF)
08.30 RRR5529 (Hercules C5 ZH888 BNTW) 08.36 contact Athens 135.875, FL280. 09.46 contact Brindisi 135.425
09.11 PERSEUS L (F-16 347 Mira) dir Tanagra?
09.44 RCH230 (KC-135R 59-1502 92 ARW) checking FL390, dir SALUN. 09.56 Cairo 127.7
09.44 PS208 (P-3C USN) approaching point ARLOS, sq 3702, VFR operational FL215. After ARLOS we'll be VFR operational for approx. 2 hours. 10.10 request FL215, VFR operational. 10.36 Continuing to the Nicosia FIR.
10.02 GAF017 (C-160D GAF) identified. 10.54 FL210. 11.50 fly heading 090, pass north of TOSKA. 11.29 call Nicosia 125.5
10.07 ASF03 (C-130K 8T-CB LTS) new sq 2266. Identified 110M inbound Rhodos FL260, cleared via FP route. 10.43 fly dir AKINA. 11.04 contact Makedonia 129.675
10.21 RCH275 (C-17A 04-4136 305 AMW) FL360, new sq 2262. 11.02 contact Makedonia 129.675
11.18 NAF11 (G-IV V-11 334 Sq) FL450, dir NEMES, NEMES 1B, RWY in use 21R. 11.34 descend from FL450 to FL350. 11.37 Continue descend FL250. 11.41 Athens APP 132.975
11.36 IAF005 (KC-707 272 120 Sq) FL370, when passing LURUS fly dir to MAGIS.
11.43 BAF606 (ERJ-145LR CE04 21 Sm) Athens APP 132.975

(all times GMT/zulu)

[Glencoe]

I am trying to ascertain the serials of the 12 F-15E's that are at Souda Bay. Can anyone assist please ?

I have so far ...

01-2003
01-2004
91-0324
91-0326
92-0364
98-0132

[F17_114PM]

See http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?p=681451#p681451

[Glencoe]

Thanks

[Wolbie]

March 3rd LGGG:
07.00 SK61 (P-3 USN) req to return to Souda due to maintainance issue onboard the aircraft. Proceed to Souda, not declaring emergency. Descend FL130, 07.06 Souda 118.125.
07.13 RCH113 (C-17A 00-0175 62 AW) contact 124.625, FL340. 07.43 Brindisi 128.3.
07.13 RCH665 (C-5M 85-0007 436 AW) contact 133.575.
07.30 RCH267 (C-17A 99-0166 62 AW) contact 124.625
07.39 HKY751 (C-130J-30 08-8602 37 AS) climbing FL230, req final FL280. Continue climb FL250, proceed dir to TIGRA. 07.44 continue climb FL280. 08.13 call Brindisi 128.3
07.55 RCH316 (C-17A 96-0006 437 AW) FL360 sq 2246. Fly dir EVIVI. 08.32 contact Makedonia 133.575
08.58 TI32 (P-3 USN) passing 9300 for FL200.
09.08 DUB4 (B737 A6-HRS Dubai Air Wing) contact 124.625, FL380 sq 2047.
09.17 CNV4603 (C-40A 165830 VR-59) FL410.
09.26 VVPD323 (P-3C 159323 USN) climbing final FL230. Proceeding SIT, KAVOS. 09.41 maintain FL210, 10.17 climb FL230. 10.18 Nicosia 124.2
09.55 IAM4671 (C-130J-30 MM62190 46 BA) FL270, cleared via FP route. Resume to TRL.
10.00 EGY1502 (C-130H-30 1295/SU-BKU Egypt AF) sq 2046 FL240, cleared PLH, LORNO.
10.44 LION739 (C-130J-30 06-8611 37 AW) Descend FL130. Leaving FL290 for FL130. 10.49 Souda APP 118.125
10.50 SPAR91 (C-21A 84-0110 76 AS) FL370, fly dir TRL, then SOKRI to Souda.

(all times GMT/zulu)

[Wolbie]

March 4th LGGG:
07.01 AFP19 (CN-295MPA 16712 Esq 502) passing 128 for FL140, fly dir TRL. Initially fly dir SOKRI. 07.20 change Athena 134.325. 07.23 radarcontact FL140. 07.59 climb FL180.
07.08 KERAVNOS23 (F-16 330 Mira) contact Preveza 120.450
07.18 PCH21B (? Pilatus) (del. flt) passing FL145. 07.37 contact Cairo 127.7
07.22 HAF364 (T-6A 364 MEA) sq 3722, proceed to ARA, TRL, Kalamata. 07.49 descend FL130, contact Kalamata APP 120.750.
07.32 PCH22R (? Pilatus) (del. flt) radarcontact passing 165 for FL190. 07.54 contact Cairo 127.7.
07.39 ALEPPOU10 (F-16 340 Mira)
08.16 QID44 flt (KC-135R 63-8884 351 ARS) in the climb, passing 140 for FL260 on the PLH 1G (dep). Sq 2031, 22NM NW of Souda, FL260 final.
In formation with PANTHER21, 1 K35R and 4 F15. Refuelling activities will take place in Malta FIR. 08.37 contact Malta 123.625
08.16 PANTHER21 (F-15E 48 FW) climbing FL260, 24NM NW of Souda.
08.38 CEF625 (CN-295M 0454 242.tsl) cleared to destination via FP route. 10.00 fly dir NESTA.
08.43 SK61 (P-3 USN) over AARLOS FL290, proceed dir PLH for destination Souda. 08.50 call Souda 118.125.
08.52 PSK508 (CN-235-200 N5025 Prescott Support) FL190 28M from DEMAG. New sq 2253, proceed dir PLH. 09.42 Athens 125.2, FL190.
08.57 QID76 (KC-135R 61-0295 351 ARS) dir PLH 12NM, passing 200 climbing FL260. We would like to block FL250-270 for airrefuelling with PANTHER41 flt.
In formation with PANTHER41, 4 F15. 09.16 Request block FL260-280. 09.19 Malta 123.625.
09.15 HAF356K (C-130H 745 356 MTM) FL190 encourse ASTIS.
09.22 CNV604H (C-9B 160051 VR-61) FL310, cleared to Souda via FP route. 09.47 dir SOKRI then Souda. 09.51 Descend FL250, FL190, FL150. 09.56 Souda 118.125.
09.25 QID75 flt (KC-135R 58-0100 351 ARS) climbing through 220 for FL260. Req block FL260-280. [with PANTHER61].
09.31 LION738 (C-130J-30 06-810 37 AS) request current WX at Souda Bay. 09.37 change 124.625, FL270. 09.51 souda APP 118.125.
09.31 VVPD323 (P-3C 161594 USN) passing 13700 for FL170. Call 124.625. 09.38 looking for FL210. After OTREX dir KAVOS. 09.47 Proceed dir SIT. 09.50 Athens 125.2, checking in FL210, request dir GUDIS.
Fly dir GUDIS, after GUDIS climb FL230. 10.00 req-> climb final FL250. 10.35 cancelling IFR proceeding due regard. Contact Nicosia 124.2
09.34 IAF016 (? IDF) FL240, destination LGAV (Venizelos), sq 2022. Approaching position ABILO, fly dir SOREV. 09.49 confirm the first touch-and-go will be in Athens?
Confirmed, will proceed to another touch-and-go at LGKL (Kalamata). 10.48 Descend FL180. 10.50 contact Athens APP 132.975.
10.12 BRNCO87 (MV-22B VMM365?)* 12M N of Souda, passing 152 climbing FL160. Sq 5531, proceeding dir DEMAG. 10.42 change Malta Control 123.625.
10.35 CNV4367 (C-40A 166696 VR-56) contact Athens 125.2, checking in FL400, dir KRK. 10.40 contact Athens 134.325.
10.49 PAAF703 (C-130E 4189 Pakistan AF) change Brindisi Control 128.3.
10.52 RCH1815 (C-17A 08-8191 437 AW) FL330 sq 3732, 5M w OF ARLOS, proceed dir SALUN. 11.00 app SALUN, change Cairo 127.5.
11.08 NATO35 (E-3D ZH101 8 Sq) dir SIT, TOSKA. 11.19 Request change of destination, we would like to go to Akrotiri for our final landing today, LCRA. 11.24 FL330. 11.56 contact Nicosia 125.5
11.28 LION738 (C-130J-30 06-810 37 AS) FL190, request FL230. Sq 1434, climb final FL230. 11.36 Climb FL250. 12.05 cleared dir GESAD, contact Cairo 124.7.
11.32 IAF016 (? C-130E 309 103/131 Sq ?) FL200. 11.34 Start descend FL140. 11.38 radarservice terminated, contact Kalamata APP 120.750
11.34 BRNCO87 (MV-22B VMM365?)* unable to make it to Sigonella due to thunderstorm, WX and icing. 11.36 Leaving FL100 for FL120.
12.00 CNV604H (C-9B 160051 VR-61) climbing through 10500 for FL240, sq 7017. Final FL240. 12.09 Descend FL180. 12.10 contact Athens APP 132.975
12.08 IAF016 (? C-130E 309 103/131 Sq ?) sq 2020 out of FL160. Contact 124.625, out of FL170. On the radar passing 175 for FL230. 12.14 Proceed dir to KUPIS. 12.23 FL230,
cleared dir MAGIS. 12.29 Request dir LGSR Santorini for touch-and-go. Descend FL150. After this approach on my way to LLBG (Ben Gurion).
Stop descend FL210. FYI, your touch-and-go wasn't in your flightplan, so Santorini APP does not approve your request for a touch-and-go.
You have to continue your flight to your destination. Request to maintain FL210 on our way to Tel Aviv.
Climb FL230. 12.57 request descend FL170 due to temperature malfunction. 13.00 request descend FL130. 13.07 Fly KAVOS then KAROL.
12.10 RRR1831 (BAe.125 CC3 ZE395 32 Sq) on the radar FL330, climb F350, follow FP route. 12.48 contact Athens 125.2, FL370 dir SIT.
12.40 SK62 (P-3 USN) checking in with you 13000, climb restriction 150, request FL280. Sq 7075, climb FL280.
12.43 ARIS D (F-4E 338 MDV) 12.46 contact Tanagra 120.250.
12.52 HAF356K (C-130H 745 356 MTM) sq 7036, FL160.
13.04 IAM4671 (C-130J-30 MM62190 46 BA) identified over METRU FL240, proceed via FP route.

* see topic http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=102614

(all times GMT/zulu)