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If that photo of the serial number, inside the flaperon is original, then it's almost 100% sure it's found.

They can then adjust the search area aswell.


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SPL wrote: They can then adjust the search area aswell.
It will still be a needle in a haystack/"naald in een hooiberg" unfortunately... :(

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ascar.html
Map prepared by oceanographers one year ago eerily predicted debris from MH370 would arrive in Madagascar... as investigators work to identify whether debris is from missing aircraft
Aviation experts say discovered piece of debris could belong to missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370
A piece of aircraft debris was found on La Reunion, off the coast of Madagascar and 5,600km from search site
Oceanographers say the location of debris is 'entirely consistent' with a graphic they created 12 months ago
Their chart tracked the potential drift patterns of the missing plane, measured from the search zone
November 2024 update at FokkerNews.nl....
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Well, so far this find seems to indicate the previous estimates were correct, which is a respectable feat in itself. I suppose commitments to the search established the past year will be reviewed in light of this development, assuming it is what it seems. In other words: the determination to find that needle will get a huge boost if this turns out to be true.

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Several news agencies are reporting, that an aircraft door has washed-up at the shore of Reunion. Probably more to follow the next days and weeks.


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SPL wrote:Several news agencies are reporting, that an aircraft door has washed-up at the shore of Reunion. Probably more to follow the next days and weeks.


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and also read somewhere (not De Telegraaf :D ) on the web that a local "jutter" also found some months ago an aircraft chair but burnt that one .....
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SPL wrote:Several news agencies are reporting, that an aircraft door has washed-up at the shore of Reunion. Probably more to follow the next days and weeks.


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Turned out to be from the local Gamma.
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Nilson wrote:
SPL wrote:Several news agencies are reporting, that an aircraft door has washed-up at the shore of Reunion. Probably more to follow the next days and weeks.
Turned out to be from the local Gamma.
Or the Hornbach, or the Praxis, the HuBo, the Karwei, the Formido, other retailers available :wink: ...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33750811

Oh well, Reunion police is now stating "don't believe everything you hear on the radio".
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Stratofreighter wrote:
Nilson wrote:
SPL wrote:Several news agencies are reporting, that an aircraft door has washed-up at the shore of Reunion. Probably more to follow the next days and weeks.
Turned out to be from the local Gamma.
Or the Hornbach, or the Praxis, the HuBo, the Karwei, the Formido, other retailers available :wink: ...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33750811

Oh well, Reunion police is now stating "don't believe everything you hear on the radio".
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Another piece was found in La Reunion, this morning:

http://twitter.com/OuissemGombra/status ... 24/photo/1
http://twitter.com/Ipreunion/status/628 ... 24/photo/1

Some say it is the wall-cover around an aircraft-window, others think it belongs to a sewing-machine.....
(I think it is too small for an aircraft-window).
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Certainly not a cover around a normal window (way too small indeed), but perhaps a cover around the small window in a door.

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Remarkably clean for something that has been in salt water for so long.

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The flaperon that washed ashore is now officially assumed to have been part of the vanished Triple Seven.
Some quotes from the latest Reuters article on the subject:
"Today, 515 days since the plane disappeared, it is with a heavy heart that I must tell you that an international team of experts have conclusively confirmed that the aircraft debris found on Reunion Island is indeed from MH370," Prime Minister Najib Razak said in an early morning televised address.
(...) prosecutors in France stopped short of declaring they were certain, saying only that there was a "very strong presumption" that it was the case.
Paris Prosecutor Serge Mackowiak said this was based on technical data supplied by both the manufacturer and airline but gave no indication that experts had discovered a serial number or unique markings that would put the link beyond doubt.
Investigators looking at the wing flap are likely to start by putting thin slices of metal under a high-powered microscope, to see subtle clues in the metal's crystal structure about how it deformed on impact, (...)
"They will identify everything they can from the metal: damage, barnacles, witness marks on the metal. They're going to look at the brackets (that held the flaperon in place) to see how they broke. From that they can tell the direction and attitude of the airplane when it hit."
However, experts said the cause of the disaster may remain beyond the reach of investigators until other debris or data and cockpit voice recorders are recovered.
"A wing's moving surfaces give you far fewer clues than bigger structures like the rudder, for example. As a single piece of evidence, it is likely to reveal quite little other than it comes from MH370," said a former investigator who has participated in several international probes of crashes at sea.
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Gerard wrote:Another piece was found in La Reunion, this morning:

http://twitter.com/OuissemGombra/status ... 24/photo/1
http://twitter.com/Ipreunion/status/628 ... 24/photo/1

Some say it is the wall-cover around an aircraft-window, others think it belongs to a sewing-machine.....
(I think it is too small for an aircraft-window).


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Also of interest to some:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 7470078222
MH370 hunt may be bogged down by French probe

French investigation faces delays

The hunt for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 reflects the inherent complexities of a global air-accident investigation, compounded by a French criminal probe operating independently of the international effort.

Long-established protocols have guided the 17-month international effort, led by Malaysian aviation authorities,
but there are no comparable,
widely accepted rules for co-ordinating such work with law-enforcement agencies from various countries.

Meeting behind closed doors yesterday in Paris,
an anti-terrorism judge laid out how France will take the lead in investigating a plane part suspected of being linked to the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 that disappeared more than a year ago, a judicial official said.

Safety experts worry the French moves could further complicate the search.

They said the result could muddle jurisdictional lines, and potentially create friction with the larger investigation.

Efforts to ascertain what happened to Flight MH370 have already been hobbled by the multinational nature of the probe.

From the beginning, Malaysian officials were suspicious of their US counterparts, and gravitated towards seeking help from Australia and Britain, according to people involved in the process.

France had already opened a separate criminal probe after the flight disappeared on its way to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur last year,
because four French citizens were among the 239 people on board.

That probe largely stayed out of the limelight until recently, when the debris found last week on La Reunion, a French territory off the coast of Madagascar, prompted yesterday’s meeting.

“The French tend to be pretty aggressive” when it comes to ­asserting the authority of prosecutors, said Robert Francis, a former vice-chairman of the US National Transportation Safety Board.

Because investigators suspect the plane went down as a result of an intentional act, Flight MH370 has been “far removed from an average aircraft accident,” Mr Francis said.

French law-enforcement officials “shouldn’t have a great deal of difficulty defending what they have done”, he added.

The involvement of French judges has confused other aviation experts, with some questioning the prosecutors’ motives.

Under the rules of the International Civil Aviation Organisation — the arm of the UN that governs traditional airline-­accident probes —
the normal procedure after finding the part would have been to assemble representatives of the plane’s manufacturer and Malaysian investi­gators to determine next steps,
according to a veteran safety expert familiar with the rules.

Instead, “the French are jumping into the middle of this suddenly, with both feet”, this person said.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/french-to-l ... 1438625819
The hunt for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 reflects the inherent complexities of a global air-accident investigation, compounded by a French criminal probe operating entirely independently of the international effort.

But safety experts watching the process from the outside worry the French moves—including the appointment of still another independent expert—could further complicate the search. These experts said the result could muddle jurisdictional lines, and in a worst-case scenario, potentially create friction with the larger investigation.

Efforts to ascertain what happened to Flight 370 have already been hobbled at times by the multinational nature of the probe, which slowed the process and sometimes sent conflicting public messages.

But the involvement of French judges has left other aviation experts scratching their heads, with some questioning the prosecutors’ motives.

Historically, French prosecutors often don’t go public with the results of their investigation until years after air-safety experts have finished their work. The criminal probe into Air France Flight 447 is still under way more than six years after air-safety experts determined why the Airbus A330 slammed into the Atlantic Ocean, killing all 228 people aboard.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... BARGE.html
Updated: 15:56 GMT, 10 August 2015

Large flat pieces of debris washed up on beaches in the Maldives which were believed to belong to missing flight MH370 were revealed today to have come from a capsized barge.

As speculation grew over the weekend that a large number of pieces of debris could have come from the doomed jet, the captain of a barge which overturned last February came forward today to say the items had in fact broken away from his vessel.
In recent months, flat pieces of debris have washed up along he northern atolls of the Maldives, resulting in the captain of a capsized barge reminding police today that he had reported his vessel had overturned last February, spilling much of its cargo of wall panels into the Indian Ocean.

'The barge had nearly 4,000 units,' the captain, 57-year-old Abdullah Rasheed, told local news website Haveeru.

'The units were 72 inches long and two feet wide. That was over three or four containers of cargo.'

Mr Rasheed said the materials were being transported to a resort that was being built on Raa Atoll before it capsized on February 10, resulting in the loss of three of the five crew members.

'From the pictures of the debris found on most of the islands, I can almost certainly say that they are from the cargo we were carrying,' he told the news site.
November 2024 update at FokkerNews.nl....
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