Meppen Range 2015

[AK01]

Seems DAF7480 C130J B536 made another mission over the Meppen range about 30 minutes ago. Can anyone confirm this?
Pieter

[Niek]

Yesterday (30-09) saw the following aircraft on Meppen Range:

Spain: CH-47D HT.17-19/ET-419 Outlaw01
Norway: B.412 141+163
Netherlands: F-16AM J-879
Denmark: C-130J-30 B-537 Outlaw05
France: Mirage 2000D 627/30-JO Outlaw06 + Mirage 2000D 622/30-IL Outlaw07

[falcon]

01-10-2015 13.40h till 15.45h

Norway Bell 412 141 (helipad)
Norway Bell 412 163 (helipad)
Danmark C-130 B-536 (13.30-14.00)
France M2k 622/30-IL (14.30-14.52)
France M2k 627/30-JO (15-20-15.43)

[erik_kamphuis]

Norwegian B412's left this morning.
New choppers arrived in Meppen heliport: Belgium A-109 H-21, H-22 and NH.90 RN-07
Guess they will stay untill mid/end next week.
FAF C-160 from EHLW was active this morning.

Erik

[AK01]

Trying to put things together, i made this list, info from this MB, FF, SBS, Panoravia etc.
28/9 Arr Spanish CH47D HT.17-19 ET-419
28/9 Arr NOW339 AB412SP 141 +163
28/9 AM Outlaw 01 HT.17-19
28/9 AM Outlaw 02 L159 6053
28/9 AM Outlaw 03 L159 6048
28/9 AM CEF696/ Outlaw 04 CN295 0455
28/9 AM Outlaw 05 F16 J879
28/9 AM Outlaw 07/08 C.16-44/C.16-47 tie up?
28/9 PM Outlaw 01 HT.17-19
28/9 PM Outlaw 02 L159 6053
28/9 PM Outlaw 03 L159 6048
29/9 AM Outlaw 01 B412SP Norway?
29/9 AM Outlaw 02 CN295 0455
29/9 AM Outlaw 03?/04? Czech L159?
29/9 PM Outlaw 01 B412SP Norway?
29/9 PM Outlaw 05 F16 J879
29/9 PM Outlaw 06 M2000D (622/30-IL)
29/9 PM Outlaw 07 M2000D (627/30-JO)
29/9 PM Outlaw 09 EF2000 AME
29/9 PM Outlaw 10 EF2000 AME
30/9 AM Outlaw 01 CH47D HT.17-19 ET-419
30/9 AM Outlaw 02 C160R R210
30/9 AM Outlaw 03 B412SP Norway?
30/9 AM NAF322/ Outlaw 04 F16 J879
30/9 PM DAF7480 Outlaw 05 C130J B537
30/9 PM FAF9173 Outlaw 06 M2000D 627/30-JO
30/9 PM FAF9174 Outlaw 07 M2000D 622/30-IL
30/9 PM Another M2000D, perhaps Outlaw08?
30/9 PM Outlaw 09/10 EF2000 C.16-47/14-11? + CE.16-11/14-70
30/9 PM Callsign? Dep Spanish Army CH47D HT.17-19 ET-419
1/10 AM Outlaw 01 B412 141
1/10 AM Outlaw 02 C160R R210
1/10 AM Outlaw 03 +04 C.16-47/14-11 + CE.16-11/14-70?
1/10 AM Outlaw 05 F16 J881
1/10 PM DAF7480/ Outlaw06 C130J B536
1/10 PM FAF9173 Outlaw 07 M2000D 30-JO
1/10 PM FAF9174 Outlaw 08 M2000D 30-IL
1/10 PM Outlaw 01 B412 163
2/10 AM 2x Outlaw 01 B412 141
2/10 Dep 12.00 NOW339 Dep Norwegian AF AB412 141 +163
2/10 AM Outlaw 03 C160R R210
2/10 PM Arr. BAF350 NH90 RN07
2/10 PM Arr. BAF315 A-109 H-21 + H-22.
5/10 AM Outlaw 01 A109 H22
5/10 AM Outlaw 02 NH90 RN07
5/10 AM Outlaw 03 C27J MM62219
5/10 AM Outlaw 04 MM7291/4-11 Typhoon
5/10 PM DAF3175 EH101 M-502 arr
5/10 PM Callsign?? NH90 RN07
5/10 PM Outlaw05 ZZ171 C17A
5/10 PM Outlaw06 Tornado MM7014 50-56
5/10 PM Arr. FMY 8163 1308/EAM NH90-TTH
5/10 PM Arr. SVF306 UH60M 161226
6/10 AM Outlaw02 NH90 RN07??
6/10 AM Outlaw04 Swedish?
6/10 PM Outlaw02 NH90 RN07??
6/10 PM Outlaw06 Danish?
6/10 PM Outlaw04 Swedish?
7/10 AM Outlaw 01 H22 A109 problem with flarebox
7/10 AM Outlaw 08 RN07 NH90 used remaining range time of H22.
7/10 AM Outlaw 02 1308/EAM NH90.
7/10 AM Callsign? H21 re-position to parking in the back.
7/10 AM Outlaw 03 MM7014 50-56 Tornado
7/10 AM Outlaw 06 MM7291/4-11 EF2000
7/10 PM BAF350 RN07 NH90 dep home
7/10 PM Outlaw 05 M502 EH101
7/10 PM Outlaw 04 161226/01 Hkp16a
7/10 PM Outlaw 07 CSX62219/RS-50 C-27J
8/10 Anyone for a log?
8/10 AM BAF315? A109 H21 and H22, dep home
8 or 9/10? Lynx AH9 ZG889 Arr,
8 or 9/10?? Dep. FMY 8163?? 1308/EAM NH90-TTH
9/10 AM Outlaw 0*? CSX62219/RS-50 C-27J
9/10 PM DAF3175 M502 EH101 Dep home
9/10 PM SVF306? Hkp16A 161226/01 Dep home.

For week 3 i see Swiss F18 expected at EHLW, The Swiss use to do missions in previous Embows, in Cazaux in 2011 they flew from Swiss to the Bicarosse range, made a fuelstop at Cazaux and went home afterwards. So perhaps these will also be for Meppen range.
Pieter,

[68-0037UH]

2/10 No Mirage 2000N, but the 141 flew twice (Norwegian AB412) before heading home with 163. The French Mirages at EHLW were D models btw....

[AK01]

2/10 No Mirage 2000N, but the 141 flew twice (Norwegian AB412) before heading home with 163. The French Mirages at EHLW were D models btw....

Thanks, edited my message with your update.

[Argus 01]

I found an article on http://www.noz.de/lokales/meppen/artike ... em-emsland
Most of it is not new for us, but maybe interesting is that from 5 till 8 october from 1500-1700 LT, 14 oct from 1400-1700 LT and 15 Oct from 800-1100 LT the neighbourhood of Tinnen (west of the Meppen Range) will see more activity than on other days, especially by "quiet" transport aircraft, according to the article.

Meppen. An der Wehrtechnischen Dienststelle für Waffen und Munition (WTD 91) in Meppen finden in der Zeit vom Montag, 28. September, bis Freitag, 16. Oktober, Flugübungen statt.
Kontrolliert werden soll damit die „Avionikausrüstung fliegender Waffensysteme“, heißt es, bei der es zu vermehrten Flugbewegungen über dem Gelände der WTD 91 kommt. Die Flugversuche finden von 8 bis 17 Uhr sowie freitags von 8 bis 13 Uhr statt. Nacht- und Wochenendflugbetrieb ist nicht geplant.
Teilnehmen werden Hubschrauber, Transportflugzeuge und Strahlflugzeuge aus unterschiedlichen Nationen, teilweise auch große Transport- und Passagierflugzeuge. Für die Versuche müssen die Luftfahrzeuge im Tiefflug oberhalb 300 Meter Höhe das Gelände der WTD 91 überfliegen. Hierbei fliegen alle Luftfahrzeuge auf vorgegebenen Profilen, die durch geschultes Personal vorgegeben und durch Radar überwacht werden.
Sinkflug beginnt frühzeitig
Die WTD 91 weist darauf hin, dass die großen Flugzeuge bereits frühzeitig ihren Sinkflug beginnen müssen, sodass es auch im weiteren Umfeld der WTD zu ungewöhnlich tief fliegenden Flugzeugen kommen kann. Insbesondere sind hier die Gemeinden und Ortschaften südlich der WTD 91 betroffen.
Vom 5. bis 8. Oktober von 15 bis 17 Uhr sowie am 14. Oktober von 14 bis 17 Uhr und am 15. Oktober von 8 bis 11 Uhr wird die Ortschaft Tinnen häufiger überflogen. Hierbei handelt es sich um leise Transportflugzeuge.

Usually the roads surrounding the range area are closed on weekdays; only in weekends you have acces, also on the paved military road that runs along the east side of the range (between the range and the villages Klein & Gross Stavern and along the Meppen Heliport). Anyone who knows of this road was open last week? There's also a spot in the north-west area of the range that's always accessible. It's called Siedlung Kathen from where you have a view on the northern part of the range. When someone has other good spotting places please let us know in this topic.

[AK01]

Italian C27J from Nörvenich now inbound Meppen for his first run at 10.30 local time.

[Sjoerd]

Trying to put things together, i made this list, info from this MB, FF, SBS, Panoravia etc.
25/9 or 28/9? Arr Spanish Aramy CH47D HT.17-19 ET-419
25/9 or 28/9? Arr Norwegian AF AB412 141 +163

I was there Saturday on 26/9, only CH-53GS 85+12 was noted on the helipad. I assume it had it's fair trials on Monday. The Norwegians arrived Monday and I would expect the Chinook to have so too.

[erik_kamphuis]

I also collected all movements (from all sites and our Panoravia members) and have this list (with times):

Meppen 1st week EMBOW XV:
September:
26 85+12 CH-53GS HSG64 helipad
28 (HT.17-19/ET-417 CH-47D? BHELTRA V) Outlaw01 09.05u
6053 L-159A Outlaw02 09.30u
6048 L-159A CEF371B/Outlaw03 09.53u
141 Bell.412SP 339 Skv (arr in evening, dep02)
163 Bell.412SP 339 Skv (arr in evening, dep02)

29 HT.17-19/ET-417 CH-47D BHELTRA V Outlaw01 (dep30)
0455 C.295M Outlaw02 10.18u
(J-879) F-16AM 322sqn Outlaw05 12.15u
1x Mir2000D EC..030 FAF9176 14.13u


30 R210/64-GJ C-160R ET064 CTM2028/Outlaw(03) 10.00u
J-879 F-16AM 322sqn NAF322/Outlaw04 11.17-12.10u (16 runs!)
B-537 C-130J-30 Esk721 DAF7480/Outlaw05 13.17-13.50u
627/30-JO Mir2000D EC..030 FAF9173/Outlaw06 14.13u
622/30-IL Mir2000D EC..030 FAF9174/Outlaw07 14.34u
HT.17-19/ET-417 CH-47D BHELTRA V Outlaw01 15.30u (dep ca.16.00 via Koln)
1x Mir2000D EC..030 16.00u
C.16-47/14-11 EF-2000 ALA14 Outlaw09/10 (tussen 16-17u)
CE.16-11/14-70 EF-2000T ALA14 Outlaw09/10 (tussen 16-17u)

October:
01 R210/64-GJ C-160 ET064 CTM../Outlaw
J-881 F-16AM 323sqn Outlaw05 ±11.25u
C.16-47/14-11 EF-2000 ALA14 (AM)
B-536 C-130J-30 Esk721 DAF7480 13.30-14.00u
622/30-IL Mir2000D EC..030 14.30-14.52u
627/30-JO Mir2000D EC..030 15.20-15.43u
163 Bell.412SP 339 Skv Outlaw01 fly ±16.00u

02 141 Bell.412SP 339Skv flew Outlaw-mission AM
R210/64-GJ C-160R ET064 CTM2028 09.30-10.05u
H21 A-109BA BAR BAR315 arr ±11.30u
H22 A-109BA BAR BAR315 arr ±11.30u
RN07 NH.90 BAR arr ±11-12u

Erik

[68-0037UH]

5/10 outlaw 01= H22, outlaw 02 RN-07, outlaw 03 the Italian C-27 and 04 Eurofighter coded 4-11

[AK01]

FR24 shows Danish EH101 M502 now inbound from 6000 ft to 2000 ft. Don't know if it's landing at Meppen or doing a flyby only.
Pieter.

[Basman]

Forgive me my ignorance but is the Meppen range in any way connected to the Nordhorn range?

I was checking FR24 for Meppen and while Meppen is buzzed by a micro light, I see a Discovery Skyhawk in the area. It either seems to be working the Nordhorn range but it might as well be in a holding pattern waiting for the microlight to clear the Meppen area.

Bas

[Niek]

No, they are completely different entities.
The Meppen Range EDR34 belongs to WTD 91, which is a Bundeswehr test unit. It is the largest instrumented shooting range in Europe.
The Nordhorn Range belongs to the Luftwaffe and is a pure air-to ground range.
They do have one thing in common though; both ranges started as test grounds for the Krupp factory.