The 'black' USAF C-32Bs

[wamovements]

In case you are interested, I can send you some pictures of 86006 at Ramstein on 26 feb 2000

[cis]

Very nice investigated !!!


Thanks for sharing.

[pilotman6012]

Speaking of the others N903TB the newest B-757 for L-3 fleet is just off Greenville,TX (KGVT),Majors Field,where mods take place on several different airframes.MALT 72 (C-32B) 00-9001 AE0443 inbound Eglin as i speak.

[Le Addeur noir]

Speaking of the others N903TB the newest B-757 for L-3 fleet is just off Greenville,TX (KGVT),Majors Field,where mods take place on several different airframes.MALT 72 (C-32B) 00-9001 AE0443 inbound Eglin as i speak.

It's quite noticeable the callsigns of 00-9001 and 02-4452 nearly always seem to end in numbers in the 7x range.

[n5205e00421]

MALT 72 (C-32B) 00-9001 AE0443 inbound Eglin as i speak.

Oh dear, a McGuire frame to Eglin. That mixes up my theory. Fortunately it was there only for two hours.. From there it actually passed just north of the Netherlands this morning, after a stop in Prestwick. It landed in Constanta, Romania. I will continue checking pics and the flight history to see if I can find out more.

00-9001 and 02-4452 do a lot of "local" flights out of McGuire staying for hours at about 20000', mainly to the west and north, with TERRA callsigns and these not always have a 7 in it.

Yep, Majors Field looks like an interesting place: http://www.majorsfieldspyplanes.com/white-ghost.html
Also some pics of N903TB here, clearly a different frame.

L.

[rh226]

It was reported on FighterControl that the TransAtlantic flight of MALT72 00-9001 last night originated from KHRT Hurlburt Field, not Eglin AFB.

This information would have been obtained from Inmarsat.

[n5205e00421]

It was reported on FighterControl that the TransAtlantic flight of MALT72 00-9001 last night originated from KHRT Hurlburt Field, not Eglin AFB.

It looks like that indeed. The flight history at AdsbExchange doesn't continue all the way to touchdown and you really have to zoom in for this one, as the two airfields are only 10 miles apart. I have seen some flights to Duke airfield as well, an auxiliary field to the north.

At the moment both Comco aircraft should be at IAD(Washington Dulles). N610G arrived 20/7 from LAS, SEA and somewhere near Moses Lake. N226G arrived from Eglin 21/7. 02-5001 did a local flight 20/7 around Eglin allowing only 1h30 to "change" to N226G before the IAD-flight. Just switching on a different transponder can create this flight history (see the inflight changes..) but I very much wonder how that 02-5001-flight looked like from the outside. Can they re-sticker that quickly, was it already done with the other transponder on, or is there still another frame involved?

L.

[pilotman6012]

Two C-32B up at this time,00-9001 weirdly is showing REACH 1002 as callsign and 02-5001 is up off West Virginia Coast and also N226G was up earlier in a different location.

[n5205e00421]

..and 02-5001 is up off West Virginia Coast and also N226G was up earlier in a different location.

N610G returned to the Eglin area about 10 hours before 02-5001 departed...

[Joost Michiels]

Saw Malta 72 heading West on ADSB 1230ish routing roughly Frankfurter- Liege- Oostende - UK. Flight should have come out of Papa.
Thought it showed 00-9001 , can't remember for sure....

[pjotrtje]

Saw Malta 72 heading West on ADSB 1230ish routing roughly Frankfurter- Liege- Oostende - UK. Flight should have come out of Papa.
Thought it showed 00-9001 , can't remember for sure....

Yes, MALT72 now (22:05 CEST) over Saint Johns, 00-9001 it is (according to ADS-B Exchange)

TIKE07 is now overhead Raleigh, showing 02-5001...

[n5205e00421]

Some more bits of info:

00-9001 Did show antenna #4 now on a recent photo in Shannon, so it has the same rooftop as 02-4452 again (edited earlier post).
00-9001 Was at Greenville Majors Field from 5/1/2017 until 20/6/2017 so I guess it was installed then.

I checked my own SBS-history and since 11/2006 I have picked up in the Netherlands:
00-9001 56x 2007-2016
02-4452 52x 2006-2016
02-5001 0x
98-6006 8x 2013-2017
99-6143 50x 2009-2016
N226G 34x 2007-2009
N610G 64x 2006-2009, and visit AMS 2012

00-9001 And 02-4452 did not always transmit a FlightID/Callsign but except for one Reach-callsign (RCH1001) there were 36 callsigns of which every one was indeed in the 7x-range BROCK70,HIPPY77,TITUS78,ETHAN76, etc) This doesn't seem to work with the TERRA-callsigns on local flights seen on adsb-exchange.

98-6006 And 99-6143 used similar sounding callsigns but numbers ranging from 11 until 91, also one 7x-one: 77.

So not a single flight of 02-5001 which is quite active inside the US, and many Comco-flights until 2009, but no recent ones.

Since 2015 I also log ACARS and VDL-2 (newer ACARS-like datalink system):
AE0443 (00-9001) also used ID 00-9001 on ACARS 1/6/2016.
AE0449 (02-4452) also used AE0449 on VDL2 10/8/2016, and ID 02-4452 on ACARS 20/8/2016
AE0438 (98-6006) also used AE0438 on VDL2 28/6/2017.
AE0446 (99-6143) also used AE0446 on VDL2 2/8/2016, with “96143” in message content.


To confirm 00-9001 and 02-4452 run an isolated operation out of McGuire, unrelated to the others, and that in total more than two frames must be involved I checked some days where both McGuire-frames were flying on adsb-exchange:

On 28-30/11/2016 00-9001 did several local flights out of McGuire, and 02-4452 had started a 9-day trip to the Middle-East.
On 29/11/2016 98-6006 arrived in Eglin around 1500utc from a few days in the Caribbean and Florida (photo Patrick AFB with 19 windows left side).
On 29/11/2016 02-5001 departed Eglin 2330utc probably for a transfer to nextdoor's Duke Field, continuing the next day at 1400utc for an 8-day trip through the US...Well it disappeared starting descent north of Las vegas 1/12 and re-appeared climbing at the same spot 6/12... This could be a continuation of 98-6006 above with just a new serial and hexcode.
On 30/11/2016 99-6143 departed Eglin around 2300utc to Greenville Majors for 13 days (photo with 17 windows left side).

On 24/7/2017 00-9001, 02-4452, 02-5001 and N226G were flying.
On 6/7/2017 00-9001, 02-4452, 02-5001 and N610G were flying.

Then a look at Google Earth; Browsing through the history the aircraft at McGuire are visible at 40.0231 -74.6069 and 40.0291 -74.5991. On the photo dated 12-2010 two 757's are parked together.
Then Eglin: At 30.4922 -86.5008 one 757 can be seen parked at the same spot in 2003,2006,2007,2010,2012. There seems only limited hangarspace availabe and accessible to hide a fleet of 47x38m 757's.

Edit: one addition to the windowcounting-story: I must have focussed on the RH side too much but the 13 and 12 windows for N226G resp N610G also apply to the front LH side. I checked about a hunderd Comco-pics again from 2004 until 2017. Only one pic of N610G doesn't fit the story: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Comco/Bo ... /1410563/L Here N610G has 13+17 instead of 12+19 windows on the left, but the reg is not visible so it might be N226G logged under N610G. Or this would be the only evidence of N226G and N610G being mixed up as well.

L.

[n5205e00421]

02-4452 Overflew the south of the Netherlands this morning as RUSK74 around 11:15lt, coming from Bucharest. It was cleared to MAM (Marham) and descended from FL360 to FL260. It was almost certainly refueled by KC-135 60-0333 / QID743 between there and west of Newcastle, after which it climbed again.

@wamovements, I had sent you a PM; could you send/post your pics of 98-6006 in 2000? It is indeed likely to have been an earlier ID of 02-4452, as 00-9001 was then still with Avianca, and N226G was still with Air Transat.
If it had 12+19(left) windows it could have been N610G, still N1018N then. That aircraft's early history seems vague; registered to "Starflite", "ASNET" and Raytheon between 1999 and 2002, no pics on the internet. It first appeared as Comco in 2002. Then there is also a report of 02-5001 at Ramstein 18/11/2000....

Starflite and/or L-3 seem the current owners of ex-NASA's N144DC, but no present sightings, photos or flight history...

Another thing: These plates/sensors/antennas(?).. :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/planephot ... P2B-4PejJu
...only seem to be installed on "military" 757's. All seven C-32B/Comco-serials have them. The first 4 factory-delivered VC-32A's also have them, not the later second-hand ones. The New Zealand AF 757's have the aft ones, and the Argentinian, Mexican and Yemen(ex Uzbekistan) 757 only have the forward ones.
I couldn't find them on airline- or privately-operated 757's, although I haven't checked every single 757 built.

Finally; The Dept of Justice now operates an ex-AA B757, N119NA, which looks a little bit similar:
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8360059
Without a door behind the wing, and with winglets, it is clearly a different aircraft.

L.

[andrewn]

02-4452 Overflew the south of the Netherlands this morning as RUSK74 around 11:15lt, coming from Bucharest. It was cleared to MAM (Marham) and descended from FL360 to FL260. It was almost certainly refueled by KC-135 60-0333 / QID743 between there and west of Newcastle, after which it climbed again

...and routed LUK and then out over the Atlantic. Gave his tail to the Quid as 024452.

[Sonny1]

Finally; The Dept of Justice now operates an ex-AA B757, N119NA, which looks a little bit similar:
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8360059
Without a door behind the wing, and with winglets, it is clearly a different aircraft.

L.

Two aircraft are in use by the DOJ since some years already: N119NA and N874TW.