NEWS - Summer Schedule 2011

[skycruiser]

Will CX have full traffic-rights on AMS-CDG ?

No. CX has (currently) no traffic rights to operate revenue traffic on the AMS-CDG v.v. sectors. So booking will not be possible.

Eric

[Nozem]

Will CX have full traffic-rights on AMS-CDG ?

No. CX has (currently) no traffic rights to operate revenue traffic on the AMS-CDG v.v. sectors. So booking will not be possible.
Eric

Is it to pass some cargo trough to CDG?

[skycruiser]

Is it to pass some cargo trough to CDG?

CX is pass everything through to CDG, also passengers, also cargo.

So we can say;

- CX yields to AMS are not that good and CX can use some more capacity HKG-CDG by using this tag-on. Less seats will be on sale for destination AMS, and more to/from CDG (using the same flights).
- CX uses the tag-on to CDG to keep their current slots (at CDG) in an easy way, without operating a complete extra flight from HKG.

I conclude that CX is downgrading AMS from Summer 2011 since the capacity to AMS is shrinking.

[XYZ]

KLM has reduced the number of flights to Milan Malpensa in Winter and Summer from 4x/day to just 3x/day. Milan Linate remains at 2x/day.

- AMS 09:20 - MXP 11:00 KL 1623 cancelled
- AMS 10:10 - MXP 11:50 KL 1623 new
- AMS 11:40 - MXP 13:20 KL 1625 cancelled
- AMS 15:15 - MXP 16:55 KL 1627
- AMS 20:35 - MXP 22:15 KL 1635

[XYZ]

According to the most recent Summer 2011 schedules Alitalia will introduce a 2x/daily Florence-AMS-FLR service in competition with MeridianaFly:

- FLR 06:55 - AMS 08:55 AZ 0114 A319 daily = NEW
- FLR 07:25 - AMS 09:30 IG 0331 A319 Mon, Thu, Fri, Sun
- FLR 16:35 - AMS 18:40 IG 0335 A319 daily
- FLR 17:30 - AMS 19:30 AZ 0116 A319 daily = NEW

- AMS 09:55 - FLR 11:45 AZ 0115 A319 daily = NEW
- AMS 10:20 - FLR 12:15 IG 0332 A319 Mon, Thu, Fri, Sun
- AMS 19:30 - FLR 21:25 IG 0336 A319 daily
- AMS 20:30 - FLR 22:20 AZ 0117 A319 daily = NEW

This will probably result in the end of KLM's codeshare with MeridianaFly.

[XYZ]

Air Baltic has now released the schedule for the new 2x/daily RIX-AMS-Riga schedule:

- RIX 11:15 - AMS 12:40 BT 617 daily B735/733
- RIX 17:10 - AMS 19:00 BT 619 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun DH4 = NEW

- AMS 13:15 - RIX 16:30 BT 618 daily B735/733
- AMS 19:30 - RIX 23:05 BT 620 Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun DH4 = NEW

[XYZ]

Olympic has released its new Summer schedule for 2011 which includes additional AMS flights:

- ATH 05:00 - AMS 07:30 KL 1572 daily B737
- ATH 10:15 - AMS 12:55 OA 151 daily ex-Thu A320
- ATH 11:50 - AMS 14:20 HV 6868 daily B737 = NEW
- ATH 17:10 - AMS 19:40 KL 1576 daily B737
- ATH 17:55 - AMS 20:35 OA 153 Thu, Fri, Sun A319 = NEW

- AMS 06:50 - ATH 11:05 HV 6867 daily B737 = NEW
- AMS 11:55 - ATH 16:10 KL 1575 daily B737
- AMS 13:45 - ATH 18:05 OA 152 daily ex-Thu A320
- AMS 20:30 - ATH 00:40 KL 1581 daily B737
- AMS 21:25 - ATH 01:45 OA 154 Thu, Fri, Sun A319 = NEW

[phkza]

Blue1 has postponed flight to Amsterdam to the end of March 2011. According to the airline there's a delay in the delivery of a Boeing 717, which was needed to operate the route.

Also, Royal Jordanian adds an extra flight to Amman. As of March 28th the route will operate every day except Sunday.

[BOEING7E7]

I conclude that CX is downgrading AMS from Summer 2011 since the capacity to AMS is shrinking.

Is that so? Maybe the AMS-CDG-AMS sector is flown completely empty, who knows!

If not, great finally the B777-300ER on the route

[James]

I conclude that CX is downgrading AMS from Summer 2011 since the capacity to AMS is shrinking.

Is that so? Maybe the AMS-CDG-AMS sector is flown completely empty, who knows!

If not, great finally the B777-300ER on the route

Huh??? nobody was saying anything ref a 777-300....where did U get that from??
Schedule remains with the 747

[JA731J]

i can be wrong, but the 777-300 has more seats right? so when they are downgrading, they will not come whit a 777-300..... (as said before)
lets wait and see?

greets.

[BOEING7E7]

Huh??? nobody was saying anything ref a 777-300....where did U get that from??

Sometimes I hear things.

i can be wrong, but the 777-300 has more seats right?

No, B773 has less seats then the B744.

[streep]

According Seat Guru,
Cathay Pacific :
773ER 301 seats
744 379 seats

[skycruiser]

Maybe the AMS-CDG-AMS sector is flown completely empty, who knows!

Capacity for sale destination AMS on these flights will be reduced and therefore more capacity goes on sale for/via CDG.
That means, that the specific flights with a tag-on to CDG will have a reduced capacity for AMS as destination.
CX is slightly reducing their capacity to AMS.

Also, this is a good way to keep hands on their slots in CDG.

CX B777-300ER will not come to AMS in the near future.

[Mrtnw]

- CX yields to AMS are not that good and CX can use some more capacity HKG-CDG by using this tag-on. Less seats will be on sale for destination AMS, and more to/from CDG (using the same flights).
- CX uses the tag-on to CDG to keep their current slots (at CDG) in an easy way, without operating a complete extra flight from HKG.

I conclude that CX is downgrading AMS from Summer 2011 since the capacity to AMS is shrinking.

I get so many upgrades on CX flying between HKG and AMS that i can hardly imagine that they can't sell their available seats. On another forum it was mentioned that the new DME-flights (on a smaller plane) would continue to Paris, as this service hasn't commenced yet it was argued that CX tries to keep the slots at CDG.
Now that CX also has extra slots at AMS and the B777 will come one day wouldn't this also be the start of a more than daily service to AMS? Just guessing...