small sigint planes

hammarö · Post by **hammarö** » 09 Nov 2016, 23:34

Lakehurst all 2015.07.01

80-23377 BP-018 RC-12D
81-23542 BP-023 RC-12D
85-00152 FE-006 RC-12K
89-00268 FE-104 RC-12N
89-00269 FE-015 RC-12N

Fort Huachucha all 2015.07.01

13-00282 FL-797 B300 EMARSS
13-00283 FL-663 B300 EMARSS
11-00265 FL-731 MC-12S EMARSS
11-00266 FL-734 MC-12S EMARSS
11-00267 FL-736 MC-12S EMARSS
11-00268 FL-738 MC-12S EMARSS
89-00275 FE-021 RC-12X EMARSS
89-00276 FE-022 RC-12X EMARSS
92-13121 FE-027 RC-12X EMARSS

pilotman6012 · Post by **pilotman6012** » 10 Nov 2016, 00:28

The RC-12X are not EMARRS all EMARRS,their are 4 variations are MC-12S,MC-12S -1,MC-12S-2,MC-12S-3.It depends on the equipment onboard.
These are no longer all based at Lakehurst or Fort Huachucha,the 15Th MI Btln has some,224Th MI Btln has some as well.Their is a new one undergoing testing at Redstone now just arrived from Lakehurst in the last few days,this one is unknown serial yet,but a King Air Beech 350 as self ided by pilot.

hammarö · Post by **hammarö** » 10 Nov 2016, 00:39

The US Army reorganise the aerial sigint battalions since 2015:

Fort Bliss 204 MiBn - ARL-E (DHC

and half GRCS
Fort Hood 15 MIBn - Gray Eagle and some GRCS (of 19 RC-12X)
Hunter 224 MIBn - MC-12S and EMARSS
Camp Humpreys 3 MIBn - ARL-E (DHC-8) and rest of GRCS minus 5 training
Fort Hood 206 MIBn - disband?
Stuttgart 1 MIBn - disband

all units under one Aerial Brigade 116 Military Brigade (Aerial Intelligence) at Fort Gordon

Russia is starting development of the same types of aircraft as US.

hammarö · Post by **hammarö** » 10 Nov 2016, 00:40

And Huachuca training aircraft also.

hammarö · Post by **hammarö** » 10 Nov 2016, 01:11

Yes the 19 RC-12X is different from the 24 planned EMARSS.
Wrong spelling guy.

Were is a lot of different EMARSS with N serials.

The is also some C-12R used.

Were is also some new types ongoing.

hammarö · Post by **hammarö** » 12 Nov 2016, 06:02

Hunter AAF, Savannah, Ga – 224 MIBn

11-00282 MC-12S FL-436 EMARSS ex Constant Hawk
12-00278 MC-12S FL-388 EMARSS ex Constant Hawk
12-00279 MC-12S FL-416 EMARSS ex Constant Hawk
12-00280 MC-12S FL-449 EMARSS ex Constant Hawk
12-00281 MC-12S FL-450 EMARSS ex Constant Hawk
11-00283 MC-12S FL-716 EMARSS ex TACOP/LIDAR
11-00284 MC-12S FL-757 EMARSS ex TACOP/LIDAR
11-00285 MC-12S FL-758 EMARSS ex TACOP/LIDAR
N6351V MC-12W FL-751 EMARSS ex LPA w/o Irak Elbit 2016 early
N800PU MC-12W FL-737 EMARSS ex LPA

hammarö · Post by **hammarö** » 12 Nov 2016, 06:35

Hello pilotman.

Your lacking MC-12S must be the following

30283 (13-00283) MC-12S-3 VaDER EMARSS-V is newly pictured at AFTD Redstone Arsenal.

Picture on internet with elongated nose.

One other source mention it as a MC-12S-1, but it must be a MC-12S-3?

hammarö · Post by **hammarö** » 12 Nov 2016, 06:57

Gray AAF, Fort Hood – 15 MIBn all MC-12W rebuild at L-3, Greenville

11-00286 FL-780 MC-12S EMARSS
11-00287 FL-834 MC-12S EMARSS

11-00287 FL-834 MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M prototype 2016
LPA2 FL-623 MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M 2016 ex MC-12W
LPA3 FL-??? MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M 2016 ex MC-12W
LPA4 FL-??? MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M 2016 ex MC-12W
LPA5 FL-??? MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M 2017? ex MC-12W
LPA6 FL-??? MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M 2017? ex MC-12W
LPA7 FL-??? MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M 2017? ex MC-12W
LPA8 FL-??? MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M 2017? ex MC-12W

rh226 · Post by **rh226** » 12 Nov 2016, 12:07

Hi hammarö,

It will not be that one.

13-00283 has a hex code of AE5623 (confirmed EGPK on 26-27 July 2015), whereas "CROOK47" has a hex code of AE5C92 - which has not yet been tied up with a serial. Not likely to be an RO-6A as the hex does not fit with the sequence of known hex codes/serials, and Albert only shows it as "filling".

Prior to arriving at Redstone, "CROOK47" could be frequently seen on ADS-B operating out of Lakehurst (could it be 12-00281 the old N45AJ??) - always same callsign and same hex code

Cheers,

Bob

AK01 · Post by **AK01** » 12 Nov 2016, 17:09

rh226 wrote:Hi hammarö,

It will not be that one.

13-00283 has a hex code of AE5623 (confirmed EGPK on 26-27 July 2015), whereas "CROOK47" has a hex code of AE5C92 - which has not yet been tied up with a serial. Not likely to be an RO-6A as the hex does not fit with the sequence of known hex codes/serials, and Albert only shows it as "filling".
Cheers,

Bob

Bob you say AE5C92 is not likely to be a RO-6A. I am not saying it is an RO-6A, but it perfectly fits in the other RO-6A hexcodes :
AE5C8C 15-00352
AE5C8D nn
AE5C8E 15-00358
AE5C8F nn but HEX noted Tuscon feb and aug-16
AE5C90 15-00577
AE5C91 nn
AE5C92 your Crook 47.
Best Regards Pieter,

AK01 · Post by **AK01** » 12 Nov 2016, 17:36

hammarö wrote:Hunter AAF, Savannah, Ga – 224 MIBn

11-00282 MC-12S FL-436 EMARSS ex Constant Hawk
N800PU MC-12W FL-737 EMARSS ex LPA

11-00282 should be FL-456 instead of FL-436
N800PU should be N8007U and is/was 10-0737, this is Emarss M1 and flying as Crook 40 oct-16, this could have been be re-serialed but would be the first one to receive a new military serial after conversion.

AK01 · Post by **AK01** » 12 Nov 2016, 17:43

hammarö wrote:Gray AAF, Fort Hood – 15 MIBn all MC-12W rebuild at L-3, Greenville

LPA2 FL-623 MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M 2016 ex MC-12W

FL-623 is 09-0623 active with OK ANG, and still an MC-12W, currently deployed to the Middle East, this was only delivered to the OK ANG first quarter 2016 after conversion, so i doubt this will be/ has been converted to MC-12S by now.
Pieter,

hammarö · Post by **hammarö** » 13 Nov 2016, 00:52

This is the situation 2015.07.01 plus some smaller changes.
Today is (2016.10) 4 MC-12S, 1 MC-12S-1, 2 MC-12S-2, 1 MC-12S-3 modified.
Produced aircraft are now tested.
Other planes are planned to modify.
Figures include some very small wrong spelling. Not from me.

There is also some detachments:
Germany/Europe 1 RC-12X, EMARSS,
Africa 1 EO-5
Afghanistan 4 RC-12X plus some EMARSS, MC-12W,

Some planes transit very much. Even training aircraft.

Fort Huachucha -
13-00282 FL-797 B300 MARSS EMARSS
13-00283 FL-663 B300 MARRS EMARSS
11-00265 FL-731 MC-12S MC-12 EMARSS
11-00266 FL-734 MC-12S MC-12 EMARSS
11-00267 FL-736 MC-12S MC-12 EMARSS
11-00268 FL-738 MC-12S MC-12 EMARSS
89-00275 FE-021 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
89-00276 FE-022 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
92-13121 FE-027 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS

Hunter AAF, Savannah, Ga – 224 MIBn.
11-00282 FL-456 MC-12S Constant Hawk EMARSS
12-00278 FL-388 MC-12S Constant Hawk EMARSS
12-00279 FL-416 MC-12S Constant Hawk EMARSS
12-00280 FL-449 MC-12S Constant Hawk EMARSS
12-00281 FL-450 MC-12S Constant Hawk EMARSS
11-00283 FL-716 MC-12S TACOP/LIDAR EMARSS
11-00284 FL-757 MC-12S TACOP/LIDAR EMARSS
11-00285 FL-758 MC-12S TACOP/LIDAR EMARSS
N6351V FL-751 MC-12W LPA EMARSS w/o 2016.04 Elbit
N800PU FL-737 MC-12W LPA EMARSS

Lakehurst all 2015.07.01 / aircraft not present 2016.11
80-23377 BP-018 RC-12D RC-12 GRCS
81-23542 BP-023 RC-12D RC-12 GRCS
85-00152 FE-006 RC-12K RC-12 GRCS
89-00268 FE-104 RC-12N RC-12 GRCS
89-00269 FE-015 RC-12N RC-12 GRCS

Biggs AAF, Fort Bliss, Tx – 204 MIBn.
15-00577 577 RO-6A ARL-E Desert Owl N8300S
15-00332 332 RO-6A ARL-E Saturn Arch N8300Y
15-00348 348 RO-6A ARL-E DO-RMA N8300G
N34HG 034 EO-5C EO-5 ARL-E
N705GG 048 EO-5B EO-5 ARL-E
N765MG 065 EO-5 EO-5 ARL-E
N177RA 085 EO-5 EO-5 ARL-E
N53993 104 EO-5B EO-5 ARL-E
84-00170 BL-100 C-12U C-12 Other
84-00177 BL-107 C-12U C-12 Other
84-00181 BL-111 C-12U C-12 Other
91-00516 FE-023 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
92-13120 FE-026 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
92-13122 FE-028 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
92-13123 FE-029 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
92-13125 FE-031 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
93-00698 FE-033 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
93-00699 FE-034 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
93-00701 FE-036 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS

Gray AAF, Fort Hood – 15 MIBn.
all MC-12W rebuild at L-3, Greenville

11-00286 FL-780 MC-12S MC-12 EMARSS
11-00287 FL-834 MC-12S MC-12 EMARSS

LPA1 LPA1 MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M prototype 2016
LPA2 LPA2 MC-12S-2 EMARSS-M 2016
LPA3 LPA3 MC-12W EMARSS-M 2016
LPA4 LPA4 MC-12W EMARSS-M 2016
LPA5 LPA5 MC-12W EMARSS 2017?
LPA6 LPA6 MC-12W EMARSS 2017?
LPA7 LPA7 MC-12W EMARSS 2017?
LPA8 LPA8 MC-12W EMARSS 2017?

Desiderio AAF, Camp Humphreys, South Korea – 3 MIBn
15-00338 338 RO-6A Saturn Arch ARL-E N8300F
15-00352 352 RO-6A Saturn Arch ARL-E N8300L
15-00358 358 RO-6A Saturn Arch ARL-E N8300T
N158CL 058 EO-5C EO-5 ARL-E
N59AG 059 EO-5C EO-5 ARL-E
N89068 088 EO-5C EO-5 ARL-E
93-00700 FE-035 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
88-00325 FE-010 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
89-00273 FE-019 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
89-00274 FE-020 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
91-00517 FE-024 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
91-00518 FE-025 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
92-13124 FE-030 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS
93-00687 FE-032 RC-12X RC-12 GRCS

rh226 · Post by **rh226** » 13 Nov 2016, 12:58

Pieter,

The missing RO-6A serials for which we do not have hex codes are 15-00332 (assumed from the c/n of N8300Y)/338/348.

Logic would suggest that the sequence for these would be AE5C86/88/8A - gaps of two as the others are, and in serial number order. However, logic isn't always correct, so we will have to wait and see. I certainly do not mind being proved wrong.

Incidentally, "N45AJ"/(12-00281) went Westbound through EGPK (Prestwick) on 01-02 April 2016, so my guess as to the identity of "CROOK47" is still a possibility.

Regards,

Bob

hammarö · Post by **hammarö** » 13 Nov 2016, 15:49

The RO-6A

Biggs AAF, Fort Bliss, Tx – 204 MIBn.
15-00577 577 RO-6A ARL-E Desert Owl N8300S
15-00332 332 RO-6A ARL-E Saturn Arch N8300Y
15-00348 348 RO-6A ARL-E DO-RMA N8300G

Desiderio AAF, Camp Humphreys, South Korea – 3 MIBn
15-00338 338 RO-6A Saturn Arch ARL-E N8300F
15-00352 352 RO-6A Saturn Arch ARL-E N8300L
15-00358 358 RO-6A Saturn Arch ARL-E N8300T

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